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riversidetom Aug 9, 2013 11:17 am


Originally Posted by xiKiNGix (Post 21240959)
Timing has nothing to do with it, it's either CC denial or Amazon.

Yep you guys are both correct. Upon further review, GF's CC had enough transactions still pending that when she tried to send $1000 it put her over her card limit so it was the CC rejecting it thankfully.

Appreciate the info guys.

FlyingBoat Aug 9, 2013 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy (Post 21229864)
Ditto.

At age 18 and 3 months my kiddo's credit score is higher than most on the board and his first cc was a points/miles cc neither secured nor cosigned. Get the kiddos on your cards as AUs early, especially with AMEX. Then be sure that they learn that with great miles earning power come the responsibility to use credit wisely.

I have done similar with my kids, and they have all earned a ton of points from getting their own cards. But be aware it can sometimes hurt to be an AU.

I had some of my kids with up to 12 AU's on my/wife's Amex accounts. This caused issues for them getting their own card. Calling reconsideration they would ask, "why do you have so many accounts?". And even after I closed their AU, they were then asked on later apps, "why do you have so many closed accounts?" It can raise flags, particularly when overdone as I likely did. They were able to go through on those apps and get the card they applied for, but it likely hurt their ability to get auto approved.

My and wife's latest AOR practically received no auto acceptance. This appears likely due to us as well being added in as an AU on so many Amex accounts last year. We were also asked on recon, "why do you have so many accounts"? To which we would respond, they are as an AU, etc.

Here it is from Experian.

Found this online:

Authorized user accounts can be removed from report upon request
Dear Experian,
Is an authorized user responsible for the debt? If an authorized user is removed from the credit card, can the credit card also be removed from the credit report? I also read somewhere that credit bureaus will not take into account authorized users for credit scores. Is that true?
- CHS
Dear CHS,
An authorized user is not responsible for the debt. However, authorized user accounts will be listed on an Experian credit report as long as the account is current and positive.
Please understand that the credit reporting companies report the history, but do not have the role to “take into account” what is reported. Such decisions are up to the users of the reports.
Most users rely on one or more scoring models to help evaluate the history. Credit score developers determine whether their scoring systems will include authorized user accounts in the calculation. Some credit scoring systems include authorized user accounts in the calculation and others do not.
If you are concerned about the impact on your credit history, you should contact the creditors and ask to be removed from the account.
Unlike being a joint account holder when you share responsibility for the debt, creditors will typically remove you as an authorized user upon request because you have no responsibility for payment. Experian also will remove the account from your credit report at your request or if you are no longer reported as an authorized user.
Thanks for asking.
- The "Ask Experian" team

Pinser555 Aug 10, 2013 5:43 am


Originally Posted by Pinser555 (Post 21224777)
Question. Is the 20,000 dollar threshold per customer or per household name? In other words, would I be issued one if we sent $24,000 worth of payments between my wife and I?

TIA

Anyone have any idea?

frogdog51 Aug 10, 2013 6:16 am


Originally Posted by Pinser555 (Post 21224777)
Queen tion. Is the 20,000 dollar I'm hreshold per customer on. per household name? In other words, would I be issued one if we sent $24,000 worth of payments between my wife and I?

TIA

20K AND 200 transactions per person... Not per household.

Pinser555 Aug 10, 2013 3:46 pm

Thanks!

Delta2010 Aug 14, 2013 5:59 pm

Quick q - Can we AP money out of an amazon GC? I have ~ $1k in Amazon GC and want to cash them out.

flyertalkingallday Aug 14, 2013 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by Delta2010 (Post 21274583)
Quick q - Can we AP money out of an amazon GC? I have ~ $1k in Amazon GC and want to cash them out.

No.

xiKiNGix Aug 14, 2013 11:06 pm


Originally Posted by Delta2010 (Post 21274583)
Quick q - Can we AP money out of an amazon GC? I have ~ $1k in Amazon GC and want to cash them out.

No, but you can easily sell them.

CFFrost Aug 15, 2013 12:42 am

I just want to note how absurdly fast AP's ACH transfer is. My SO sent me funds this morning and I quickly (~20 min later) transferred to my bank account. I just noticed the funds are already showing up in my bank account - this is same calendar day, a little over 12 hours! Unbelievable!

mittenfingerz Aug 15, 2013 6:46 am

I <3 Amazon. And BB too. They are the best.

TravisSC Aug 15, 2013 8:56 am


Originally Posted by CFFrost (Post 21276165)
I just want to note how absurdly fast AP's ACH transfer is. My SO sent me funds this morning and I quickly (~20 min later) transferred to my bank account. I just noticed the funds are already showing up in my bank account - this is same calendar day, a little over 12 hours! Unbelievable!

I'll second this sentiment but think it's a shame that this isn't the norm across the 'traditional' banking segment. The digital payment landscape is so fragmented right now that many times, for consistency, you're required to default to legacy mechanisms (checks, MO, Wire transfers). I still think that the only reason the big banks haven't rolled out instant digital payments is because they haven't quite decided on how they're going to monetize it and pass on the fee to the customer.:mad:

vagrants Aug 15, 2013 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by TravisSC (Post 21277797)
I'll second this sentiment but think it's a shame that this isn't the norm across the 'traditional' banking segment. The digital payment landscape is so fragmented right now that many times, for consistency, you're required to default to legacy mechanisms (checks, MO, Wire transfers). I still think that the only reason the big banks haven't rolled out instant digital payments is because they haven't quite decided on how they're going to monetize it and pass on the fee to the customer.:mad:

Even with the AP, transferring money from a bank to AP takes 5 - 7 days. It's only the CC -> bank has shorter processing time.

CFFrost Aug 15, 2013 11:16 pm


Originally Posted by vagrants (Post 21281836)
Even with the AP, transferring money from a bank to AP takes 5 - 7 days. It's only the CC -> bank has shorter processing time.

I'm sorry I'm having a hard time understanding your post - I am assuming you mean AP - > Bank and CC->AP, respectively?

I was able to withdraw the funds from AP to my bank in ~12 hrs. They tell you it may take 5-7 days, but my experience has been that it is much faster than that. Perhaps the bank may make a difference?

vagrants Aug 15, 2013 11:22 pm


Originally Posted by CFFrost (Post 21282290)
I'm sorry I'm having a hard time understanding your post - I am assuming you mean AP - > Bank and CC->AP, respectively?

I was able to withdraw the funds from AP to my bank in ~12 hrs. They tell you it may take 5-7 days, but my experience has been that it is much faster than that. Perhaps the bank may make a difference?

I'm talking about AP funding 'from' bank accounts. 'Not' withdrawing money from AP 'to' banks.

rdover1 Aug 15, 2013 11:25 pm

I'm originally from the EU and frankly banking in the US is antiquated. Not often you can say the US is so far behind. Electronic transfer are mandated to be instant. In the US they are instant but banks sit on the transfers and cash out having the cash on their balance sheets for the interim because the government does't regulate that this is unacceptable.


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