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FrequentFlyer9000 Dec 18, 2013 9:45 am


Originally Posted by jimbaum (Post 21985073)
Here is my setup: A1>B1>A2>B2>A1, where A & B are two different SSN

A1 my computer using IE
B1 my computer using FF
A2 work computer
B2 my laptop using Wi-Fi hotspot

Hence, only A1 and A2 would have same IP. A2 and B2 would be totally unique from the crowd.

Not sure if it makes a difference, but easy enough to do for me. Will report back if...I mean when I run into trouble.

I advise you do not use the same computer for any accounts to be really safe. At the very least use a different internet connection for each.

Also - are the four accounts' credit card names all unique? Or all the same person?

I never fully understood the "advanced" Amazon payments game, but to be totally safe, I think you would need something like four accounts with four different SSNs and credit cards in four different names. Whether this is your family/friends/whoever doesn't matter, but I think that is the only safe way.

A -> B via AP
B -> A via PP

C -> D via AP
D -> C/A via PP

This way there is no trace whatsoever of these accounts being related. It is painstaking work and requires significant complicity and making sure that these three other people (if they are real) pay their CC bills on time etc. Easier if one person manages the whole thing but that requires three parties that really trust you or a bunch of deceased relatives. Either way, not simple work, and only for a couple grand of spend per month.

chongwj8 Dec 18, 2013 12:20 pm

hehe since when this thread has become a math formula discussion?

A1+B1+C1 = Shutdown!!!

PainCorp Dec 18, 2013 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by chongwj8 (Post 21988931)
hehe since when this thread has become a math formula discussion?

A1+B1+C1 = Shutdown!!!

I believe the formula you are looking for is A2+B2=C2.

Kyle Ervin Dec 19, 2013 1:37 am

I am starting to feel ripped off, they have my money and wont let me withdraw it!
 
Hello,
I am overjoyed I found this forum because I can NOT get ANY answers from anywhere else. Inlcuding the Amazon payments "specialists" AND customer
service. Here is what is going on, I have an amazon buisness account that I created for a kickstarter awhile back. I never ended up using the amazon payments account at ALL. Over three weeks ago I began using Amazon mechanical Turk. The money goes into this amazon payments account yet it NEVER becomes available! I have contacted customer care over 3 times and each time they literally say WE DONT KNOW. Then they refer me to their specialists who only have email, and they only respond with generic information that does not apply to me at all!

After I recieve a payment for completing a hit on Mturk, the money goes into my amazon payments account balance yet it never becomes dispersable! I am starting to feel ripped off and I am being given the run around. Why can I not access this money? I do not sell, I do not even buy on amazon, i have no penalties of any kind yet it has been well over two weeks since since transactions have been completed and i still can't withdraw the money,
has anyone else experienced this and can please help, I am at a complete loss!

Thank you,

Kyle E.

Kyle Ervin Dec 19, 2013 1:57 am

The last couple emails and calls they actually suggested that I make ANOTHER account as a personal amazon payments account. Are they trying to make me get banned so they can keep my money? Theres a thought. ug

js80 Dec 19, 2013 7:31 am


Originally Posted by jimbaum (Post 21968736)
Although I have been good with A1>B1>A2>B2>A1, I think your setup may have merit - operating in a cellular fashion.

If Besos' tribe decides to shut down one of your cells (the latter one), it would appear that your original cell would remain intact, compared to my case where I complete the loop, and risk all accounts to be shut down together.

Keeping the cells separate also allows me to get through the whole transaction process faster every month. I can do A>B and A1>B1, one right after the other on the same day. Then do the B/B1 withdrawals one right after each other on the same day. Etc.

f0xx Dec 19, 2013 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by Kyle Ervin (Post 21992533)
Hello,
I am overjoyed I found this forum because I can NOT get ANY answers from anywhere else. Inlcuding the Amazon payments "specialists" AND customer
service. Here is what is going on, I have an amazon buisness account that I created for a kickstarter awhile back. I never ended up using the amazon payments account at ALL. Over three weeks ago I began using Amazon mechanical Turk. The money goes into this amazon payments account yet it NEVER becomes available! I have contacted customer care over 3 times and each time they literally say WE DONT KNOW. Then they refer me to their specialists who only have email, and they only respond with generic information that does not apply to me at all!

After I recieve a payment for completing a hit on Mturk, the money goes into my amazon payments account balance yet it never becomes dispersable! I am starting to feel ripped off and I am being given the run around. Why can I not access this money? I do not sell, I do not even buy on amazon, i have no penalties of any kind yet it has been well over two weeks since since transactions have been completed and i still can't withdraw the money,
has anyone else experienced this and can please help, I am at a complete loss!

Thank you,

Kyle E.

Why don't you ask on the mturk forum? I know I seen such thing.
Looks like you need to create a new Amazon Payments account that's not a business account. But who knows.
You're asking a community that probably has no clue what mturks is.

WhateverDude Dec 19, 2013 1:13 pm

+1. I had to look it up, but only for it's MS potential. :)

evor1 Dec 19, 2013 6:41 pm

do business cards not work anymore? I sent 1k in october from chase southwest business card. now when I try it doesnt show up in the available credit card list. if I check my account it shows up there but unable to select when sending money.

scottybweyy Dec 20, 2013 1:32 pm

I have a friend who is willing to setup an AP account for me to use. I have some questions:

I would like to add a checking account (not linked to another AP account) for easier withdrawals. Any issues with this? The name would be mine and not match the AP owner's name. Thanks.

healthnut Dec 20, 2013 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by scottybweyy (Post 22002067)
I have a friend who is willing to setup an AP account for me to use. I have some questions:

I would like to add a checking account (not linked to another AP account) for easier withdrawals. Any issues with this? The name would be mine and not match the AP owner's name. Thanks.

I don't know if I would do that unless it was a joint account. Better if the friend deposits it to her account and writes you a check or wires you the money.

cowboyguy Dec 20, 2013 9:33 pm

Is it safe to create another account under one SSN?

rambro Dec 20, 2013 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by cowboyguy (Post 22004374)
Is it safe to create another account under one SSN?

Can you? and Safe? are two completely different things.

BarnyardRomeo Dec 21, 2013 12:30 am


Originally Posted by scottybweyy (Post 22002067)
I have a friend who is willing to setup an AP account for me to use. I have some questions:

I would like to add a checking account (not linked to another AP account) for easier withdrawals. Any issues with this? The name would be mine and not match the AP owner's name. Thanks.

i would take that risk.. i would also try to find other such friends. in my view, when its just a person and their wife/husband who have accounts, if they just send money back and forth between them, that probably does not look good. but if they send money to others then that is a legit handling of the account. so you should try to find many, many others that you can play the role of creditor and debtor with.

italdesign Dec 21, 2013 9:22 am

I'm confused by one thing.

According to AP, accounts can send and receive $500 each month. I also saw it referenced by a FT post last month.

But from day one I've been able to send and receive $1K, including this month. So what's the $500 about?

Is $500 for new accounts, and those of us with $1K are grandfathered in?


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