Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Jun 28, 2012, 10:48 am
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Jun 29, 2012, 11:31 am
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HELP - getting From Z to FCL (B) to C
Hi
I am usually pretty good w FRA but not with connections (I usually leave and go to FCT)
I will probably arrive at the Z gates and then go over to the FCL at the B gates before my 380 flight from C
1. What is easiest way to get from Z to FCL at B gates. Can I use tunnel? Or is train better? Which way has less security check points?
2. Going from FCL @ B gates to A380 @ C gates. Will they drive me like they do from FCT or do I need to walk
Any help much appreciated
Note: I don't mind going thru pass port control if it's faster but would like to cut out as many security lines as PSBL. I heard if I take the tunnel from Z to B I have to go thru passport control twice but no security???
I am usually pretty good w FRA but not with connections (I usually leave and go to FCT)
I will probably arrive at the Z gates and then go over to the FCL at the B gates before my 380 flight from C
1. What is easiest way to get from Z to FCL at B gates. Can I use tunnel? Or is train better? Which way has less security check points?
2. Going from FCL @ B gates to A380 @ C gates. Will they drive me like they do from FCT or do I need to walk
Any help much appreciated
Note: I don't mind going thru pass port control if it's faster but would like to cut out as many security lines as PSBL. I heard if I take the tunnel from Z to B I have to go thru passport control twice but no security???
Jun 29, 2012, 1:25 pm
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Hi
I am usually pretty good w FRA but not with connections (I usually leave and go to FCT)
I will probably arrive at the Z gates and then go over to the FCL at the B gates before my 380 flight from C
1. What is easiest way to get from Z to FCL at B gates. Can I use tunnel? Or is train better? Which way has less security check points?
2. Going from FCL @ B gates to A380 @ C gates. Will they drive me like they do from FCT or do I need to walk
Any help much appreciated
Note: I don't mind going thru pass port control if it's faster but would like to cut out as many security lines as PSBL. I heard if I take the tunnel from Z to B I have to go thru passport control twice but no security???
I am usually pretty good w FRA but not with connections (I usually leave and go to FCT)
I will probably arrive at the Z gates and then go over to the FCL at the B gates before my 380 flight from C
1. What is easiest way to get from Z to FCL at B gates. Can I use tunnel? Or is train better? Which way has less security check points?
2. Going from FCL @ B gates to A380 @ C gates. Will they drive me like they do from FCT or do I need to walk
Any help much appreciated
Note: I don't mind going thru pass port control if it's faster but would like to cut out as many security lines as PSBL. I heard if I take the tunnel from Z to B I have to go thru passport control twice but no security???
The tunnel between A and B is in Schengen. So if you want to go from a Z gate to the FCL B via the tunnel you will have to go through passport control twice. You should not need to go through security in theory but it's a long time since I've gone from a Z (A non-Schengen in those days) gate to the FCL B (via FCL A
) and I don't know how it works these days.If you take the Skyline train from Z to B, you don't need to go through passport control but you will almost certainly have to clear security.
I'd go to the FCT if I want to avoid hassle especially Pier B security.
Jun 29, 2012, 1:40 pm
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I can answer question 2. If your flight is departing from a C gate they will drive you to your plane from the FCL B.
The tunnel between A and B is in Schengen. So if you want to go from a Z gate to the FCL B via the tunnel you will have to go through passport control twice. You should not need to go through security in theory but it's a long time since I've gone from a Z (A non-Schengen in those days) gate to the FCL B (via FCL A) and I don't know how it works these days.
If you take the Skyline train from Z to B, you don't need to go through passport control but you will almost certainly have to clear security.
I'd go to the FCT if I want to avoid hassle especially Pier B security.
The tunnel between A and B is in Schengen. So if you want to go from a Z gate to the FCL B via the tunnel you will have to go through passport control twice. You should not need to go through security in theory but it's a long time since I've gone from a Z (A non-Schengen in those days) gate to the FCL B (via FCL A
) and I don't know how it works these days.If you take the Skyline train from Z to B, you don't need to go through passport control but you will almost certainly have to clear security.
I'd go to the FCT if I want to avoid hassle especially Pier B security.
Thanks. I guess I'll never see the FCL due to laziness
Jun 29, 2012, 3:23 pm
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That's what I always do. I've been to the FCT probably 30 times but NEVER been to the FCL. If its that bug a hassle getting from Z - B then I'll probably go to the FCT again. I kinda wanted to try the FCL so I could watch the aircraft and take a walk if I want to around the terminal. That was my plan the last 2 times but when I landed I just kinda said the hell with it and went to the FCT (again)
Thanks. I guess I'll never see the FCL due to laziness
Thanks. I guess I'll never see the FCL due to laziness
Here's a picture I took in the FCL B last year. You feel you are in an airport and not in a glorified bus station.
Jun 29, 2012, 3:46 pm
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The FCL B is certainly very pleasant and I don't want to deter you from enjoying the nice view of the apron and Pier A from there simply because of my experience with Pier B security last year. Security check itself wasn't too obtrusive or unpleasant. It was the fact that I shouldn't have had to re-clear security and the whole thing was such a waste of time.
Here's a picture I took in the FCL B last year. You feel you are in an airport and not in a glorified bus station.
Here's a picture I took in the FCL B last year. You feel you are in an airport and not in a glorified bus station.
Jun 30, 2012, 12:45 am
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Since I usually travel between Europe and Asia, I don't get to Z often. On a few occasions I went from Z to B, I either took the Skyline train or cleared passport control by gate Z25 and walked through the tunnel to B. I can't remember if I had to clear security after the tunnel but it was some time ago and arrangements may have changed.
The picture in my previous post was taken last May during my 10 min visit to the FCL B as described here. It was the last time I visited the FCL B or went through transfer security in B, but perhaps it's time to give them a try again.
The picture in my previous post was taken last May during my 10 min visit to the FCL B as described here. It was the last time I visited the FCL B or went through transfer security in B, but perhaps it's time to give them a try again.
Jun 30, 2012, 3:01 pm
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I had the deep joy of Non-Schengen transfer security in B the other day. It's a bit faster than transfer security Non-Schengen-Schengen in B, but that's not saying much.
Jun 30, 2012, 3:06 pm
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BTW, have you actually seen passport control just inside non-Schengen bus arrival gates in operation?
Jun 30, 2012, 3:14 pm
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No, I have never seen that passport control in operation. I had a special treat the other day, I was on the one LH BHX inbound and we drew up at the A gate I was departing from. Still got the nice tour of the tarmac of course.
Jun 30, 2012, 4:28 pm
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No, I have never seen that passport control in operation. I had a special treat the other day, I was on the one LH BHX inbound and we drew up at the A gate I was departing from. Still got the nice tour of the tarmac of course.
P.S. I'm confused. Aren't there two escalators? I know the security checkpoint on the right at the bottom of the first escalator. I think the loos are at the bottom of the second escalator and I don't think you can turn right there but you can see some security check points behind the glass if you look right. Perhaps I need a trip through FRA to refresh my memory.
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Jun 30, 2012, 4:33 pm
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I've never turned right there but IIRC there are loos at the bottom of the escalator and a couple of airport employees standing there to deter anyone from using the facilities.
Yes, I've had the pleasure as well. Arriving from LHR the plane parked at A42 and my connecting flight departed from A40. And it was raining.
Yes, I've had the pleasure as well. Arriving from LHR the plane parked at A42 and my connecting flight departed from A40. And it was raining.
Mine was A26 and going from A26 - all that walk when I could have been fighting for a seat in the SEN lounge.
I always love it when they offer priority boarding onto the bus
Jun 30, 2012, 4:44 pm
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Really? When you are deplaning? Is it based on status or class of travel?
At least ZRH has the Business Class bus to the terminal. I like the way FAs stand by the door to make sure C pax walk down the steps first and to prevent Y pax from boarding the MB bus.
At least ZRH has the Business Class bus to the terminal.
I like the way FAs stand by the door to make sure C pax walk down the steps first and to prevent Y pax from boarding the MB bus.
Jul 1, 2012, 12:07 am
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I think the LX Business Bus is a great innovation and that the powers that be in FRA and MUC should take notice.
Jul 1, 2012, 3:40 am
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) but I haven't tested it yet.ZRH doesn't have priority security based on status though nobody bothers to check your BP, but we are going OT.