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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Sep 3, 2012, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by amartin1979
I'm booked on United Flight 900 from SFO to FRA with a tight 45 minute connection onward to TUN on LH 1322. Considering United's dismal on-time performance lately, there is a chance I could miss my LH flight onward to TUN. My ticket is booked on LH ticket stock. Several questions:

1) If I misconnect to the LH flight, will LH rebook me on the only other carrier with nonstop flights? (i.e. Tunisair)
2) If I am forced to overnight in FRA, will LH provide a hotel? I am *G (UA 1K).
3) Am I eligible to use the Senator Lounge with my *G status if I rebook my flights so that I am ticketed on the Tunisair flight as long as I remain on an LH ticket?

Thanks very much
My wife and I flew UA900 a couple of weeks ago. We had a 55 min connection in FRA (It started life as a 65 min connection). 25 mins late arriving so we didn't make the connection.

We were travelling on a Z ticket and alerted several FA's to our potential misconnect. They were unable to provide any info. If we weren't bussed in we may have made it

Chap with a clipboard met the bus and told us we had already been rebooked onto the next flight. So we had six hours to spend in what a least was a very nice lounge. A small consolation.

Whilst on the subject of UA900 I have to say I found the 747-400 very disappointing. One bottle of chardonnay for the entire upper deck! Wow. Give me the EWR-MAN 757's any day
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Old Sep 3, 2012, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Same thing. Also the same if I go directly to the image URL. If you have chrome you can try viewing the page in an ingnito window which will let you test what it looks like for the rest of the world (i.e. not signed in as you)
I have tried as you suggested and could still see the images, but I have updated all the links. Can you please try again and let me know? Thanks.
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Old Sep 3, 2012, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
I have tried as you suggested and could still see the images, but I have updated all the links. Can you please try again and let me know? Thanks.
The images are back in place.
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Old Sep 3, 2012, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
I have tried as you suggested and could still see the images, but I have updated all the links. Can you please try again and let me know? Thanks.
Originally Posted by iainbhx
The images are back in place.
Bingo. That did the trick
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Old Sep 3, 2012, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by iainbhx
The images are back in place.
Thanks. I have sent them feedback suggesting they should make the map available on the web.
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Old Sep 3, 2012, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by iainbhx
BHX flights aren't allowed near the terminal, they park somewhere near Gro-Gerau. I don't expect this to change at all.
Why not? MAN flights (even bmi operated ones) are sometimes allowed near the terminal.

Originally Posted by iainbhx
More like one goes from A+ and the BHX arrives at the remote stands and I end up in my favourite place, B Non-Schengen Bus Arrivals.
That's the problem. You may be picked up by a limo but still dropped in your favourite place.

By the way I've found an out-dated (pre C13-16 gates) plan of FRA showing remote apron stands in case the limo driver gets lost. On my recent visits to FRA I had the pleasure of being driven to/from V94 in Zeppelinheim, as well as the other end of the airport to F something stand in Kelsterbach which turned out to be quite handy since the plane took off from Runway 18 and didn't have far to taxi. ^
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Old Sep 3, 2012, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Why not? MAN flights (even bmi operated ones) are sometimes allowed near the terminal.


That's the problem. You may be picked up by a limo but still dropped in your favourite place.
MAN flights are semi-respectable. BHX flights aren't, they are full of reprobates like myself.

Even our First Class Passengers must re-clear the security they shouldn't have to - that's service. Perhaps all this will change with the advent of A+, perhaps Saudi will start serving Gin and Tonic, who knows.

Oh well, at least I get a head start and the car will get away from the aircraft fairly quickly.
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Old Sep 3, 2012, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by iainbhx
MAN flights are semi-respectable. BHX flights aren't, they are full of reprobates like myself.

Even our First Class Passengers must re-clear the security they shouldn't have to - that's service. Perhaps all this will change with the advent of A+, perhaps Saudi will start serving Gin and Tonic, who knows.

Oh well, at least I get a head start and the car will get away from the aircraft fairly quickly.
No need to denigrate yourself as I don't believe anybody arriving from the UK can avoid transfer security in FRA even pax from LHR.

Correction: Actually if your flight is delayed and you get a direct ramp transfer you can avoid transfer security. ^

BTW, I saw someone (may be two people) going through passport control at the back of your favourite place the other day. I tried to look for any signs pointing in that direction but I was already at the bottom of the escalator and it was too late to turn back.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 4:35 am
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I used FRAport app's feedback feature to send a comment that the map on the app is excellent and that it would be useful if the same map is available on FRAport's website. I received the following reply.

"Thank you for your message through our App.

We are glad to hear that you pointed out the map which is available on the app. We have taken your feedback as an advice to give our department which is responsible for our homepage a hint."

It proves as I suspected that different teams are responsible for the website and the app but hopefully the website team might take the hint.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 5:18 pm
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80 minutes in FRA for BUD-FRA-IAH

Am I missing something? I am looking at BUD-FRA-IAH as a possible routing for January, LH1343 connecting to LH440 (on the A380) with 80 minutes connection time. If I'm reading the table oliver2002 posted, the MCT for this would be 100 minutes, or am I wrong? However, this is bookable on lufthansa.com

Regardless of whether it is a legal connection or not, would you feel comfortable with 80 minutes connection time on this itinerary? After my previously reported experience of 5 minutes connecting from A to Z, I tend to be ok with it. However, this time it's going to be a connection from A to C, which takes longer though.

Thanks.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by gusd
Am I missing something? I am looking at BUD-FRA-IAH as a possible routing for January, LH1343 connecting to LH440 (on the A380) with 80 minutes connection time. If I'm reading the table oliver2002 posted, the MCT for this would be 100 minutes, or am I wrong? However, this is bookable on lufthansa.com

Regardless of whether it is a legal connection or not, would you feel comfortable with 80 minutes connection time on this itinerary? After my previously reported experience of 5 minutes connecting from A to Z, I tend to be ok with it. However, this time it's going to be a connection from A to C, which takes longer though.

Thanks.
The MCT is listed in the format HMM, so 100 is 1 hour (=60 minutes) rather than 100 minutes.

We don't know where A380 flights will depart from after the new Pier A-Plus opens in October, but the new pier can handle up to 4 A380s. You may only have to walk from A to Z but it could be almost as long as A to C. However, 80 minutes should be sufficient provided the incoming flight is not very late.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
The MCT is listed in the format HMM, so 100 is 1 hour (=60 minutes) rather than 100 minutes.

We don't know where A380 flights will depart from after the new Pier A-Plus opens in October, but the new pier can handle up to 4 A380s. You may only have to walk from A to Z but it could be almost as long as A to C. However, 80 minutes should be sufficient provided the incoming flight is not very late.
I knew I was missing something . Thanks, NewbieRunner. I guess I won't have time for a visit to the lounge, though.

Oh, yes, I forgot about A-Plus.
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Old Sep 8, 2012, 11:10 am
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ORD-FRA-LHR connection

On Sept 11 I will be arriving at FRA on LH431 from ORD 06:50. I have a connection on LH902 to LHR leaving at 08:20.

Will that be tight? Do I have to go through security?
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Old Sep 9, 2012, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by tal1412
On Sept 11 I will be arriving at FRA on LH431 from ORD 06:50. I have a connection on LH902 to LHR leaving at 08:20.

Will that be tight? Do I have to go through security?
1 hour 30 minutes should be enough for a connection. You should not need to clear security since you arrive from the US unless your flight arrives at a non-gate position and you are brought to a bus arrival gate.

If you are on one ticket they'll put you on the next flight to LHR if your incoming flight is very late and you miss your connection.
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 4:43 am
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Is it safe to check-in luggage for a 45 min MCT at FRA? My routing is LHR-FRA-IST (non-Schengen to non-Schengen). My bag is actually small enough to take on board, but it's almost 18 kg which exceeds the 8 kg allowance. They probably won't weigh it, but just in case I'd rather check it in.

Also, does LH still use the HOT tags on baggage tags? Should I ask at check-in at LHR for this tag so my bag is last on/first off?
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