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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Feb 14, 2012, 5:12 am
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I'm booking a *A reward flight through BMI route LHR-FRA-LAX in mid november the LHR flight arrives at 0900 and the FRA flight departs at 1015. Is 1 hr 15 enough for the connection at FRA given that the LH website suggests that 2hrs min is needed? I cannot just book the FRA-LAX flight on its own using a different flight from London the day earlier because of married segment issue - this ticket can only be booked on the full route.

My question is if we miss our flights will LH put us on a later/other carrier the same day? And is this connection doable.

Thanks
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Old Feb 14, 2012, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by apuleius
I'm booking a *A reward flight through BMI route LHR-FRA-LAX in mid november the LHR flight arrives at 0900 and the FRA flight departs at 1015. Is 1 hr 15 enough for the connection at FRA given that the LH website suggests that 2hrs min is needed? I cannot just book the FRA-LAX flight on its own using a different flight from London the day earlier because of married segment issue - this ticket can only be booked on the full route.

My question is if we miss our flights will LH put us on a later/other carrier the same day? And is this connection doable.

Thanks
I believe scheduled connecting time should be enough, it might be tight but should be enough so don't waste your time with Bratwurst.

The LHR flight tend to have a terminal position which then puts you into Terminal 1B or sometimes T1 C. Your LAX flight can depart either from T1 C or T1 Z (the previous A50+ gates).

If you have your flight LHR-FRA-LAX in one PNR then you are also covered incase your inbound to FRA is delayed. Normally during approach into FRA, the cabin crew announces all flights where the connection cannot be made. In this case, if you hear your LH456 FRA - LAX to be announced during approach into FRA, you can go straight to the LH ticket counter in FRA, best within airside. Or sometimes, they pick you up from the airplace itself and drive you to your connecting flight, so once you deboard your LHR flight, check for guys with signs like "Connecting LH456". Normally the are just after the aircraft finger.

At the ticket desk, if you then mention that you inbound to FRA was delayed etc. they will put you on the next available flight, I can't imagine that there is a difference between tickets redeemed though ££ or Miles.

Not sure what you mean with "married segment" though.
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Old Feb 14, 2012, 9:32 am
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thanks, I think we'll go for it!
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Old Feb 14, 2012, 2:43 pm
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Please also keep in mind that the flight is still ~9 months away, so chances are not too low that there will be time changes in the schedule, which might lead to more/less time in FRA. So right now I wouldn't worry too much. Check back around September and things should be clearer then. If times stay like this and you miss your flight, you are either rebooked through MUC (arrival 7pm instead of around 1pm) or are put on a different carrier.
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Old Feb 14, 2012, 5:07 pm
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OK, I am seriously cross eyed. I've read the FRA connections thread (well...the important parts), done searches, and I'm still confused. In April, I have the following:

CDG-FRA-LED
0:45 minute connection

LED-FRA-CDG
1:15 connection

For the life of me I can't figure out where I'll be coming and going from and whether I'm in for a bad time. I think the LED flights are typically from 1B (ugh...it says bus a lot) and CDG is in 1B or 1A, but LED is non-Shen and CDG is Shen.

I'm more worried about the return because I connect to an AA award out of CDG (with a comfortable connection in CDG...but I need to get there!)

Any thoughts...tips, suggestions, tricks, "don't go there's"...
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Old Feb 14, 2012, 6:48 pm
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Connecting at FRA

Wow this is a great Thread. I will be flying in on Continental/United on the way to JNB leaving on SAA. I am not a member of anything but will be using miles.
It looks like with a 11 hr layover the only lounge I can us is out side of everything. Oh well such is my life. Last time was through FRA found a lounge
that would let me stay for 3 hours for 30euros a rip off I think.
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Old Feb 14, 2012, 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Frosty1
Wow this is a great Thread. I will be flying in on Continental/United on the way to JNB leaving on SAA. I am not a member of anything but will be using miles.
It looks like with a 11 hr layover the only lounge I can us is out side of everything. Oh well such is my life. Last time was through FRA found a lounge
that would let me stay for 3 hours for 30euros a rip off I think.
Hi Frosty1,

I suggest you check the thread M&M Lounge meetings. Probably someone can guest you in a lounge but with such a long layover you should contemplate going downtown.
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Old Feb 14, 2012, 7:21 pm
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Well being an old man I dont want to get to far away. Just would like to relax and do internet and sleep in a chair. I will look at that site thanks.
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 1:18 am
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Didn't you find a lounge here? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/germa...ounge-fra.html
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 5:44 am
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FRA Duty free

Is any possibility to get a discount in FRA Heinemann DUTYFREE shop? do they support any membership discounts or something like this? thanks
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 6:54 am
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in reply to FlyingStefan:

Well that happened last year when i was booked on the same connecting flight from LHR the 6.15 was pulled in September (for Nov. travel)and we were put on a flight a day earlier. Meant I had to change all my hotel bookings.... but in the end it didn't matter as availability came up for a reward flight on the direct route from LHR on NZ!
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by ladyfirst
Is any possibility to get a discount in FRA Heinemann DUTYFREE shop? do they support any membership discounts or something like this? thanks
I think if you are airport or airline staff then yes.

But check out their webpage, maybe there is sth special going on.
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Beat me to it! I remembered his complaints from a month or so ago (in the Germany forum), and here he is back again grumbling about the same thing.

Last edited by UAPremExecflyer; Feb 15, 2012 at 8:49 am Reason: added Germany forum
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 3:08 pm
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Hi everyone, just a quick query about transiting in Frankfurt. I'm flying to St. Petersburg from Dublin via Frankfurt this coming Friday with Lufthansa. My question relates to duty free purchases. Im wondering if I purchase say a bottle of brandy in Dublin, will I be able to take it all the way through to St Petersburg? The reason I ask is that last week i flew to Paris via Frankfurt with Lufthansa again and on the outbound journey from Dublin we had to pass through security. It was rather strange though as on the return journey from Paris as I didnt have to go through security then. Can anybody shed some light for me? Im a little confused. I have of course transited before with duty free shopping and have been lucky, but I read elsewhere that travellers sometimes have their goods confiscated. I'd really appreciate any help you can give. Many thanks
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 3:11 pm
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Is it possible to connect between C13-16 and D/E upper (non-schengen) level directly, without having to walk to the B/C skyline station, and take the train back to T2 again?

How about the other way round, when I have to get from D/E Non-Schengen to C13-16 departures? I remember having made the way from a C16 arrival to the SEN Lounge on level below via a set of staircases close to the "Riegel"
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