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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Apr 2, 2012, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
If you miss the connection you'd have a rather long layover. At least you won't have to clear passport control.
To the next LH flight - yes. If I miss the connection, there's also an Aer Fungus (EI) not too long afterwards (at 1050). I might try to get on that.

UPDATE: I easily made the connection. Inbound UA952 was 20 mins early. Hopped the train to B gates, through security in no time and walk down to B26. Plenty of time for a couple of double espressos. The one new thing, new to me anyway, was an additional passport check at the gate prior to boarding beginning. Had to show passport e-boarding pass and security guy seemed to check my name against flight manifest and put a sticker on my passport.

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Old Apr 3, 2012, 2:18 pm
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Hi

We are connecting through FRA on Friday and looking for some advice please...

We arrive on BA at 9.45am and depart on United at 2.00pm. We are on two separate tickets.

Our plan is to pick up bags from the BA flight, make our way to the arrivals area and then get the shuttle bus to terminal 1, check in for the United flight (we are in F) and make our way to the Senator lounge.

We haven't been to FRA before, and we would like to use the big new Senator lounge (and get a massage) as we are both Senators. Am i correct in thinking that this is at the B gates, but we will be departing from the Z gates? Presume we will have to clear security twice (is there priority security for Senator/F passengers?), and we will make sure we arrive at the Z gates in plenty of time, using the Tower lounge if we have time (is it worth it?)

Does all this sound right?

Also, we would like to pick up some Easter chocolate gifts at FRA - any recommendations?

Thanks in advance
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Old Apr 3, 2012, 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by dhoward
We haven't been to FRA before, and we would like to use the big new Senator lounge (and get a massage) as we are both Senators. Am i correct in thinking that this is at the B gates, but we will be departing from the Z gates? Presume we will have to clear security twice (is there priority security for Senator/F passengers?), and we will make sure we arrive at the Z gates in plenty of time, using the Tower lounge if we have time (is it worth it?)
The Senator Lounge you have in mind is near B42 and it has indeed a Babor spa. There is priority security for F passengers and after leaving the Pier B lounge the best way to go to your departure gate in Z will be via the Skyline train. You will have to go through security check again but queues there shouldn't be too bad. Unless you enjoy plane-spotting it's not worth going to the Tower Lounge.
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Have not been through FRA in the past year so I am wondering if the security protocal has changed for connecting flights??

In my past experience every UA and LH flight arriving from SFO (non-schengen) was required to reclear security before accessing the non-schengen departure area. Needless to say this could be problematic when you had a 1-hour connection! But now I read that you do not have to clear security when flight arrives from USA. Is that correct?

Err, never mind I see per post #791 that things have not really changed, at least as of August 2011: The downside is that as of now you will always have to re-clear security if arriving non-Schengen, except at Pier A. Alas my flights always arrive at B or C.

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Old Apr 4, 2012, 3:25 pm
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Connection in Frankfurt - 50 minutes, too tight or OK?

LUFTHANSA 5283 CHARLOTTE 02SEP12 4:45pm FRANKFURT 03SEP12 7:20am

LUFTHANSA 324 FRANKFURT 03SEP12 8:10am VENICE

If the flight out of CLT arrives on time, and gates are close to each other - I'm probably fine - but if Frankfurt is spread out and flight is late coming in, might be a problem.

Have never flown into Frankfurt. Have no idea what the terminal is like.

If I were flying into Logan in Boston, or maybe DFW - I would be concerned that 50 minutes is a little too tight.

Any comments or thoughts?

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Old Apr 4, 2012, 5:03 pm
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50 min. would be tight. You will have to clear security while connecting and some gates can be quite a hike if you need to switch terminal areas.
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Seems tight to me. Frankfurt is a sprawling mess.
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Last time I connected through Frankfurt to Venice, I recall it taking about an hour and a half.
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Way too tight a timeline, I would look for at least an hour and a half like the previous poster suggested
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Please continue to follow this thread in the LH Forum (Thought about moving the thread to Germany Forum, but decided our LH folks would be the best resource).
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Originally Posted by SwingT
LUFTHANSA 5283 CHARLOTTE 02SEP12 4:45pm FRANKFURT 03SEP12 7:20am

LUFTHANSA 324 FRANKFURT 03SEP12 8:10am VENICE

If the flight out of CLT arrives on time, and gates are close to each other - I'm probably fine - but if Frankfurt is spread out and flight is late coming in, might be a problem.

Have never flown into Frankfurt. Have no idea what the terminal is like.

If I were flying into Logan in Boston, or maybe DFW - I would be concerned that 50 minutes is a little too tight.

Any comments or thoughts?

Thanks
You're arriving on US Airways from CLT (as an LH codeshare) connecting to LH to VCE. 50 mins will be tight. Take a look at this thread for all the tricks of connecting at FRA http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...on-thread.html
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Old Apr 5, 2012, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by UAPremExecflyer
. Take a look at this thread for all the tricks of connecting at FRA http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...on-thread.html
Thanks for the posts, and link to thread

Will read the thread, and have my wife read it also - we should have a pretty good grasp of FRA from that.
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Old Apr 5, 2012, 8:54 am
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Just got off the phone with Lufthansa

Said the flight out of CLT is actually a US AIR flight with space sold to Lufthansa.

Also said the CLT incoming flight to FRA would come into terminal one, and departing flight to Venice would be departing terminal one.

She also stated there would only be a passport check at the gate of flight departing for Venice and I would not have to clear security or customs.

She checked the "legality" of the connection and stated the "legal" minimum time for that connection was 45 min ( at first she said an hour, then said let me look further - came back and said 45 min) and I should be OK.

Next Lufthansa flight out is close to five hours later. When I asked if there was incoming delay would I have to wait the five hours or would they put me on next available airlines flight to venice - she never really gave a satisfactory answer.

It _is_ tighter than I like - was booked by cruise line, no input on booking - take it or rebook completely.

I have to run for now, maybe I will call lufthansa later and see if I get same information from another person on clearing security/customs, etc - and legality of connection

Need to ask about "piers" also. She only talked about Terminals One and Two
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Originally Posted by SwingT
Next Lufthansa flight out is close to five hours later. When I asked if there was incoming delay would I have to wait the five hours or would they put me on next available airlines flight to venice - she never really gave a satisfactory answer.

Need to ask about "piers" also. She only talked about Terminals One and Two
Your timing is tight however do-able if your flight is not wait.

There are no other flights to Venezia in the interim- from any carrier- if you miss the flight you will have to wait 5 hours.
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Old Apr 5, 2012, 3:20 pm
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I had an amusing connection in FRA this weekend. Flew in from NRT in F and had a tight(-ish) connection to BRU. I was duly met by a gentleman holding a sign with my name. Unfortunately his keycard failed to work and we spent ten minutes standing around a very empty corridor while he got it fixed.

I wasn't amused to learn that they've now put in a security theatre in addition to immigration stop. Why do they need to check bags again when you've just come out of a plane, and were accompanied by a supposedly trusted employee (despite dysfunctional keycard) ever since? I don't remember that being there last time either? I can (vaguely) grasp the need for security theatre when you've been allowed to mingle with other suspe---passengers and around shops selling dangerous knickknacks but on direct transfer it's just silly.

Admittedly, if I were that kind of person, I'd rather "damage" a cramped old 737 than a shiny new A380 but anything I were going to do the damage with would have been found before I boarded the A380.

FRA ... full of surprises!
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