Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Jul 14, 2012, 1:05 pm
#1171
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Yes, your arriving BP will give you access to the Welcome Lounge. It's definitely worth it. Skip the breakfast on the plane.
Jul 15, 2012, 2:45 pm
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Still was a ~30+ minute connection time gate to gate, between running to the train elevator, training over to B, using the "late connection" passport lane, running all the way down the C corridor, going through extra security, and then up to lounge boarding. I wouldn't wish a deep-A-to-C connection (or the reverse) on anyone! Will make sure to book at least a 90 minute connection next time.
Jul 15, 2012, 7:38 pm
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A question if I may:
Scenario: Dad is arriving at FRA on AA from DFW and will meet me at FRA for our LH flight to FCO. I am in C and he is in Y. (I am on miles arriving the day before from Tokyo so it worked out that way).
His flight arrives at 7:30 am and our LH flight to Rome is at 12:25. I would like to take him to the lounge to relax. Am I, on the power of either my LH C Class ticket or my Star Gold status on UA, able to take him into any lounges? If so which ones?
Thank you in advance,
Mike
Scenario: Dad is arriving at FRA on AA from DFW and will meet me at FRA for our LH flight to FCO. I am in C and he is in Y. (I am on miles arriving the day before from Tokyo so it worked out that way).
His flight arrives at 7:30 am and our LH flight to Rome is at 12:25. I would like to take him to the lounge to relax. Am I, on the power of either my LH C Class ticket or my Star Gold status on UA, able to take him into any lounges? If so which ones?
Thank you in advance,
Mike
Jul 15, 2012, 11:09 pm
#1174
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A question if I may:
Scenario: Dad is arriving at FRA on AA from DFW and will meet me at FRA for our LH flight to FCO. I am in C and he is in Y. (I am on miles arriving the day before from Tokyo so it worked out that way).
His flight arrives at 7:30 am and our LH flight to Rome is at 12:25. I would like to take him to the lounge to relax. Am I, on the power of either my LH C Class ticket or my Star Gold status on UA, able to take him into any lounges? If so which ones?
Thank you in advance,
Mike
Scenario: Dad is arriving at FRA on AA from DFW and will meet me at FRA for our LH flight to FCO. I am in C and he is in Y. (I am on miles arriving the day before from Tokyo so it worked out that way).
His flight arrives at 7:30 am and our LH flight to Rome is at 12:25. I would like to take him to the lounge to relax. Am I, on the power of either my LH C Class ticket or my Star Gold status on UA, able to take him into any lounges? If so which ones?
Thank you in advance,
Mike
Jul 16, 2012, 12:11 am
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Your Star Gold status will get you and your dad as your guest into the Senator lounges. The lounge most convenient for your flight to Rome will be the Senator lounge by gate A26 - unfortunately not the best Senator lounge in FRA. If it's too crowded you can try the Business lounge next door.
Jul 16, 2012, 1:22 am
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Just to give you a laugh, here's my latest non-Schengen-Schengen transit at FRA. Please note I have double weero+ status with FRA Security. This afternoon I have the easy transit Schengen-non-Schengen. This contains disturbing scenes of bus gates.
FRA Non-Schengen-Schengen transit
I'm wondering if those Immigration booths in B Non-Schengen Bus Gates will eventually open up some alternative route through maybe to A+ (and I bet you still have to reclear security).
FRA Non-Schengen-Schengen transit
I'm wondering if those Immigration booths in B Non-Schengen Bus Gates will eventually open up some alternative route through maybe to A+ (and I bet you still have to reclear security).
Jul 16, 2012, 6:29 am
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Just to give you a laugh, here's my latest non-Schengen-Schengen transit at FRA. Please note I have double weero+ status with FRA Security. This afternoon I have the easy transit Schengen-non-Schengen. This contains disturbing scenes of bus gates.
FRA Non-Schengen-Schengen transit
I'm wondering if those Immigration booths in B Non-Schengen Bus Gates will eventually open up some alternative route through maybe to A+ (and I bet you still have to reclear security).
FRA Non-Schengen-Schengen transit
I'm wondering if those Immigration booths in B Non-Schengen Bus Gates will eventually open up some alternative route through maybe to A+ (and I bet you still have to reclear security).
I was reminded why I have avoided FRA since New Year's Eve 2011 and how I got to know ZRH so well - which btw isn't perfect either. The reason is not so much FRA vs ZRH but rather LH C seats vs LX C seats and LH C fares vs LX C fares. But I digress.I have an 11 hour layover in FRA coming up in a few weeks when I hope to take some photos to update my FRA connection guide.
Jul 16, 2012, 9:12 am
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Thanks for brightening up the wet Monday morning and for mentioning my name. I was reminded why I have avoided FRA since New Year's Eve 2011 and how I got to know ZRH so well - which btw isn't perfect either. The reason is not so much FRA vs ZRH but rather LH C seats vs LX C seats and LH C fares vs LX C fares. But I digress.
I have an 11 hour layover in FRA coming up in a few weeks when I hope to take some photos to update my FRA connection guide.
I was reminded why I have avoided FRA since New Year's Eve 2011 and how I got to know ZRH so well - which btw isn't perfect either. The reason is not so much FRA vs ZRH but rather LH C seats vs LX C seats and LH C fares vs LX C fares. But I digress.I have an 11 hour layover in FRA coming up in a few weeks when I hope to take some photos to update my FRA connection guide.
Blame whichever party you would like to - FRA is a disaster. Just one time do C16 to A42 and you will remember. Fortunately I have avoided FRA since the end of May- but the passport control situation is also completely unacceptable at this point.
Jul 16, 2012, 9:13 am
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Just to give you a laugh, here's my latest non-Schengen-Schengen transit at FRA. Please note I have double weero+ status with FRA Security. This afternoon I have the easy transit Schengen-non-Schengen. This contains disturbing scenes of bus gates.
FRA Non-Schengen-Schengen transit
I'm wondering if those Immigration booths in B Non-Schengen Bus Gates will eventually open up some alternative route through maybe to A+ (and I bet you still have to reclear security).
FRA Non-Schengen-Schengen transit
I'm wondering if those Immigration booths in B Non-Schengen Bus Gates will eventually open up some alternative route through maybe to A+ (and I bet you still have to reclear security).
FRAnkenstein is still in good shape I see.
Jul 16, 2012, 12:35 pm
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It was easier on the way back, although being 40 mins late out of WAW didn't help. Another double bus job. But Schengen to Non-Schengen is a little easier (or A Schengen Bus Gates to B32) and I managed to get 25 mins in SEN B, Fish Fingers and Potato Salad
Add to list of nice security - WAW, quite charming and polite.
Add to list of nice security - WAW, quite charming and polite.
Jul 17, 2012, 9:59 am
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Hello,
My parents are flying from MAA-FRA-MIA on 25 th july lufthansa all the way. Any help regarding which gates they land and which gates the flight takes off from. Also do they have to go through buses to get to the plane?
My parents are flying from MAA-FRA-MIA on 25 th july lufthansa all the way. Any help regarding which gates they land and which gates the flight takes off from. Also do they have to go through buses to get to the plane?
Jul 17, 2012, 10:29 am
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The MAA flight usually arrives at the B-gates, the MIA flight leaves from the Z-gates. No buses were involved today or yesterday. I suspect the most likely to be bused is the MAA to B Non-Schengen Bus Arrivals, I doubt if the MIA will be bused. With a two hour connection, this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Jul 17, 2012, 10:53 am
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All these things are in the lap of FRAport and Lufthansa, I'm afraid.
The MAA flight usually arrives at the B-gates, the MIA flight leaves from the Z-gates. No buses were involved today or yesterday. I suspect the most likely to be bused is the MAA to B Non-Schengen Bus Arrivals, I doubt if the MIA will be bused. With a two hour connection, this shouldn't be a problem at all.
The MAA flight usually arrives at the B-gates, the MIA flight leaves from the Z-gates. No buses were involved today or yesterday. I suspect the most likely to be bused is the MAA to B Non-Schengen Bus Arrivals, I doubt if the MIA will be bused. With a two hour connection, this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Jul 17, 2012, 1:18 pm
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Thanks a lot for the quick reply. I took wheel chair assistance for them since they are not familiar with english and its their first international travel. So when you say they are bused from MAA to B Non-Schengen Bus Arrivals, will they be driven from aircraft to the B arrivals in small electric vehicle or will they just be in the bus with other as well. Point i am asking where will they get access to wheel chair assistance at aircraft or B arrivals? also how much time does it take for them to go from B gates to Z gates considering its there first time
I can't help you with the B to Z transit time as it's not a route I've ever done through Frankfurt.
Jul 17, 2012, 1:21 pm
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If you say they need wheelchair assistance in advance then you will get it from the appropriate arrival point. I would state that when I checked, the MAA had arrived more at a gate than a bus over the last few days.
I can't help you with the B to Z transit time as it's not a route I've ever done through Frankfurt.
I can't help you with the B to Z transit time as it's not a route I've ever done through Frankfurt.
Thanks again for the help. Appreciate it.