Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Nov 22, 2010, 6:03 pm
#391
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As AMS-FRA is within Schengen zone, so arrival in A and YVR is departing from B, it is a bit of walking, but you should make it without hassle.
One hour is enough time for transfer, without running.
One hour is enough time for transfer, without running.
Nov 22, 2010, 6:47 pm
#392
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1h is very tight, but not impossible. FRA can be a zoo, another issue is you could arrive at a bus gate and/or depart from a bus gate (happened to me on exactly that flight a while ago, and they started bussing us to the plane 35min before departure) Another issue is that there are no alternative flights to YVR, so if you missed your flight you´d have to be rerouted via YYC/YYZ/YUL/YOW/etc.
Have you considered the FRA-YYC flight?
As a SEN I´d probably give it a shot, but you shouldn´t be surprised if something goes wrong. (MCT is 45min, so LH would that´s extremely unrealistic)
Have you considered the FRA-YYC flight?
As a SEN I´d probably give it a shot, but you shouldn´t be surprised if something goes wrong. (MCT is 45min, so LH would that´s extremely unrealistic)
Nov 22, 2010, 8:16 pm
#393
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Lufthansa actually has a good track records to wait for people on intercontinental flights if connecting flights to FRA are delayed. Taking that into account and if you know FRA 1 hour should be fine, although on an award ticket this adds a bit extra spice. On award tickets i always like to have extra time available.
Nov 22, 2010, 9:05 pm
#394
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Thanks guys!
I see that the early morning flight is now available, so will try to switch that over instead.
I like to be early just in case , you know, Murphy's Law. And with my luck, that'll probably be the first winter storm to hit AMS!
I see that the early morning flight is now available, so will try to switch that over instead.
I like to be early just in case , you know, Murphy's Law. And with my luck, that'll probably be the first winter storm to hit AMS!
Nov 23, 2010, 2:30 am
#395
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I transferred through FRA last year doing MUC-FRA-YYC
a few days before Christmas and it was a complete zoo.
I gave myself 2 hours to make the transfer and that
was fairly stressful.
a few days before Christmas and it was a complete zoo.
I gave myself 2 hours to make the transfer and that
was fairly stressful.
Nov 23, 2010, 2:32 am
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Nov 23, 2010, 2:39 am
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My wife missed her flight both ways IAH-FRA-AMS-FRA-IAH, when she had close to 2 hours connection time. I will be very worried with anything less than 90 mins in FRA in winter.
Nov 23, 2010, 2:44 am
#398
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Guy Betsy- it is pretty tight- is there no other option? If no- I would gamble- and understand worst case scenario is you will spend a night at the FRA Sheraton.
Nov 23, 2010, 8:26 am
#399
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After reading the beginner's guide, I'm now a bit worried about my first LH flt today that connects through FRA. I'm in C class LAX-FRA-ZRH so it sounds like I will have to take the Skytrain to my connecting gate? I have an hour, 20min so this shouldn't be a problem if my inbound is on time? Thanks.
I'll just follow the signs, right, and not think about the logic.
I'll just follow the signs, right, and not think about the logic.
Nov 23, 2010, 8:43 am
#400
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After reading the beginner's guide, I'm now a bit worried about my first LH flt today that connects through FRA. I'm in C class LAX-FRA-ZRH so it sounds like I will have to take the Skytrain to my connecting gate? I have an hour, 20min so this shouldn't be a problem if my inbound is on time? Thanks.
I'll just follow the signs, right, and not think about the logic.
I'll just follow the signs, right, and not think about the logic.
According to lufthansa.com the LAX flight is likely to be an apron arrival and pax will be bused to International Arrivals B, though this could change. If you arrive at International Arrivals B (marked as BNS on lufthansa.com), follow the signs to A1-42 which will take you up escalators to passport control. Go through passport control and follow the signs for A1-42 which should take you through security and the tunnel connecting B and A. Your ZRH flight is likely to depart from an A gate (e.g. A24 or A26).
1 hr 20 mins should be enough if your incoming flight is on time but provided you are on a single ticket they will put you on the next flight should you miss your connection.
On some days the LAX flight may arrive at a lower C gate. In that case the signs might direct you to the Skyline train.
Nov 23, 2010, 8:47 am
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Thanks, glad I'm connecting thru Munich on the return.
Nov 23, 2010, 9:06 am
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I consider connecting in MUC as too boring! 
If by any chance your flight arrives at an A gate, go through passport control at the end of the concourse (one by A65 is best but there's another one at the other end), through security and down the escalator to A Schengen gates (A1-42).
If by any chance your flight arrives at an A gate, go through passport control at the end of the concourse (one by A65 is best but there's another one at the other end), through security and down the escalator to A Schengen gates (A1-42).
Nov 23, 2010, 9:13 am
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I guess it will be anticlimatic on the return! Thanks for your help and have noted all instructions.
Nov 23, 2010, 12:16 pm
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Having connected recently at FRA I have the following observations:
(1) When arriving from US in the morning, be prepared for a long wait at the security checkpoint. It was .5-1 hour in line at 9am, there were not enough metal detectors open. At 6am it was a little better particularly if you were one of the first off.
(2) The tower lounge was pretty disappointing. Both the new business lounges (A and B terminals) are only marginally different from the old ones. The food and seating is the same, the showers are nice but still lack sufficient ventilation which means you need another shower after you get dressed thanks to the heat
The worst part is lack of seats to stretch out/sleep for those who have come off long flights.
(1) When arriving from US in the morning, be prepared for a long wait at the security checkpoint. It was .5-1 hour in line at 9am, there were not enough metal detectors open. At 6am it was a little better particularly if you were one of the first off.
(2) The tower lounge was pretty disappointing. Both the new business lounges (A and B terminals) are only marginally different from the old ones. The food and seating is the same, the showers are nice but still lack sufficient ventilation which means you need another shower after you get dressed thanks to the heat
The worst part is lack of seats to stretch out/sleep for those who have come off long flights.
Nov 23, 2010, 12:56 pm
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