Pilot strikes in Autumn / Fall 2014
#256
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Well, I think the risk has definitely gone up. The union has announced that there will be a strike, so unless they restart negotiations in the very short term (which is unlikely), this is going to happen.
And why is there nothing to react to? Of course it is not in LH's interest that customers proactively move their bookings to other carriers as they fear to be affected by a strike. Last time there were strikes on longhaul (this year in March), I had a return flight SFO-FRA on LH in F which was cancelled and I was rebooked into SK via CPH in C. So thank you very much for making me lose half a day, sit on an angled seat and endure the wonderful SK food. So yes, I made it back, not a major disaster. But this time, I would proactively rebook by myself before the strike announcement comes out, because then it's likely to be too late.
I understand they want to keep it quiet, but not even having a small notice on the website while it's all over the news is frankly ridiculous.
And why is there nothing to react to? Of course it is not in LH's interest that customers proactively move their bookings to other carriers as they fear to be affected by a strike. Last time there were strikes on longhaul (this year in March), I had a return flight SFO-FRA on LH in F which was cancelled and I was rebooked into SK via CPH in C. So thank you very much for making me lose half a day, sit on an angled seat and endure the wonderful SK food. So yes, I made it back, not a major disaster. But this time, I would proactively rebook by myself before the strike announcement comes out, because then it's likely to be too late.
I understand they want to keep it quiet, but not even having a small notice on the website while it's all over the news is frankly ridiculous.
Given there have been six strikes so far in the past 12 months involving Lufthansa it is not unreasonable to expect a seventh. I am not asking for the CEO to explain their negotiating strategy- I am just asking that at least on the webpage there is a one line warning of industrial action.
#257
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My take is that LH doesn't think there will be a strike. The last one was called off by VC after they realised their base was not behind it.
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I don't think LH has to post about this on its website. I do think, however, that all callcenter workers need to know about the situation in case they are quizzed by customers.
HTB.
HTB.
#259
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But the callcentre that superpointsLXflyer called was the Swiss SEN callcenter, i.e. LX. They didn't know, so they called LH and asked and got the answer. Seems reasonable to me...
#260
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Actually a number of companies post about their labour disruptions using social media. They don't need to post about their negotiations- they can post- as they did for a very long time with the original Lufthansa lurker- via their twitter, Facebook, or even Flyertalk accounts.
Also, LH seems to use their social media more to post pretty pictures of planes, as opposed to interacting with customers.
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So if I'm flying LH tomorrow longhaul, how far in advance would a strike be announced? When can I safely assume I'll be out of the woods as far as strikes go?
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So far 24h advance notice was the limit they imposed onto themselves. Previously it was 72h.
AFAIK LH is going to go all out this time, VC has lost a lot of internal support.
AFAIK LH is going to go all out this time, VC has lost a lot of internal support.
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Be prepared for next week......a strike will come to all flights and all stations...much easier for VC to have an impact that way!
Be prepared for next week......a strike will come to all flights and all stations...much easier for VC to have an impact that way!
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Be prepared for next week......a strike will come to all flights and all stations...much easier for VC to have an impact that way!
Be prepared for next week......a strike will come to all flights and all stations...much easier for VC to have an impact that way!
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+1: Is there any concrete information to suggest such a strike? if not conjecture simply makes people nervous unnecessarily.
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We will see if I am correct or not about a strike next week
One thing is for sure - VC will not narrow it down to 48 flights again - as the last attempt - where LH management was able to shift and squeeze to make these flights happen with not much impact, before it was called off.
I would think they will follow the AF lead and make sure that at least 200-300 flights are affected - maybe for several days again - so the impact is felt for sure no matter what % of the pilot-base follows - also it gives a "free" domino effect into the next days as aircraft are misplaced
One thing is for sure - VC will not narrow it down to 48 flights again - as the last attempt - where LH management was able to shift and squeeze to make these flights happen with not much impact, before it was called off.
I would think they will follow the AF lead and make sure that at least 200-300 flights are affected - maybe for several days again - so the impact is felt for sure no matter what % of the pilot-base follows - also it gives a "free" domino effect into the next days as aircraft are misplaced
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