May 21, 2020, 5:59 pm
Japan Transit/Connection/Layover Master Thread
Jun 11, 2022, 5:45 pm
#691
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HND-GMP cancellation
The JL HND-GMP leg of my award booking was cancelled as well. How confident are we that this route will be back by my original booked June 22nd date? I don't have any info other than what has been posted here and a couple articles mentioning June 8 and June 15 as possible dates. At this point I may need to scramble and rebook so that I arrive into NRT and buy a cash ticket into ICN from there.
Separately what is the current situation at NRT with respect to airside transfers between terminals? It looks likely that I would need to transfer from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1.
Separately what is the current situation at NRT with respect to airside transfers between terminals? It looks likely that I would need to transfer from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1.
The HND-GMP reopening (originally for "early June") delay was supposedly caused by necessity to hire additional staff and set up arrival screening apparatus, and the new date is supposedly 6/15. But I suspect it will be later. Reasons:
1. JL has massively cut back its tentative June schedule. Yes, 6/1-6/14 outright canceled. Then there were initially 3x flights daily from 6/15 on (still selling as of May), but they first reduced it to Thurs and Sun only (meaning earliest possible is 6/16), and presently down to just one morning flight on those two days (all mid afternoon and evening flights canceled). That's for Japan--> Korea direction; I don't remember the other.
2. A South Korean politician is set to board the ceremonial reopening flight on 6/19, so that might be the first.
1. JL has massively cut back its tentative June schedule. Yes, 6/1-6/14 outright canceled. Then there were initially 3x flights daily from 6/15 on (still selling as of May), but they first reduced it to Thurs and Sun only (meaning earliest possible is 6/16), and presently down to just one morning flight on those two days (all mid afternoon and evening flights canceled). That's for Japan--> Korea direction; I don't remember the other.
2. A South Korean politician is set to board the ceremonial reopening flight on 6/19, so that might be the first.
Jun 11, 2022, 7:22 pm
#692
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The JL HND-GMP leg of my award booking was cancelled as well. How confident are we that this route will be back by my original booked June 22nd date? I don't have any info other than what has been posted here and a couple articles mentioning June 8 and June 15 as possible dates. At this point I may need to scramble and rebook so that I arrive into NRT and buy a cash ticket into ICN from there.
Separately what is the current situation at NRT with respect to airside transfers between terminals? It looks likely that I would need to transfer from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1.
Separately what is the current situation at NRT with respect to airside transfers between terminals? It looks likely that I would need to transfer from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1.
Inter terminal transfers in Narita works perfectly normal. The bus is running.
Jun 11, 2022, 10:47 pm
#694
Join Date: Mar 2019
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The JL HND-GMP leg of my award booking was cancelled as well. How confident are we that this route will be back by my original booked June 22nd date? I don't have any info other than what has been posted here and a couple articles mentioning June 8 and June 15 as possible dates. At this point I may need to scramble and rebook so that I arrive into NRT and buy a cash ticket into ICN from there.
Separately what is the current situation at NRT with respect to airside transfers between terminals? It looks likely that I would need to transfer from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1.
Separately what is the current situation at NRT with respect to airside transfers between terminals? It looks likely that I would need to transfer from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1.
At this point I'm not optimistic that the HND-GMP corridor will open at any date in June. JL's website shows July 1 with earliest availability, and those they could take down at a moment's notice.
There is another strange thing going on at JL's site. I'm not a Japanese national so the purpose of my flight is just to transit at HND on the same ticket. Even though a GMP-HND flight is bookable starting 7/1, it errors out if I want GMP-HND-LAX. But HND-LAX for sure are running and has been for quite some time. As separate searches each segment appears, but not when you want to go from A to C. In fact, A-B-C isn't bookable until November 1 at earliest, with every date between now and then appearing as not available.
Jun 13, 2022, 9:17 am
#695
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Question regarding terminal transfers at HND...
I have a flight between LAX-KIX-HND-BKK and I believe the domestic leg in the middle will land me in terminal 1 at HND and I will need to be in terminal 3 for my flight to BKK. Will this cause me serious issues?
I have a flight between LAX-KIX-HND-BKK and I believe the domestic leg in the middle will land me in terminal 1 at HND and I will need to be in terminal 3 for my flight to BKK. Will this cause me serious issues?
Jun 13, 2022, 9:25 am
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How far in the future are we talking about?
Jun 13, 2022, 10:26 am
#697
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Currently you can't enter Japan, so you can't take a domestic flight from KIX to HND. The caveat is if you are Japanese citizen or resident in Japan, the situation is different. But otherwise you need to find another routing.
How far in the future are we talking about?
How far in the future are we talking about?
Jun 13, 2022, 10:56 am
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This Sunday. Thanks for the heads up! I was able to find a direct flight from LAX-HND and then a flight the next day from HND-BKK. From what I've read in the previous posts there should be no issues with this itinerary even though there is an overnight layover on separate tickets
Jun 13, 2022, 1:55 pm
#699
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Looking into booking NRT-ICN on Ethiopian as well. Can anyone confirm whether it is possible to check into the flight either online or airside at Terminal 1 (or maybe at the gate if all else fails)? Will be merely transiting via NRT and will not be able to go to the normal departure desk. Have reached out to Ethiopian directly and have been less than satisfied with the lack of answers they have provided so far.
Jun 13, 2022, 3:40 pm
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Looking into booking NRT-ICN on Ethiopian as well. Can anyone confirm whether it is possible to check into the flight either online or airside at Terminal 1 (or maybe at the gate if all else fails)? Will be merely transiting via NRT and will not be able to go to the normal departure desk. Have reached out to Ethiopian directly and have been less than satisfied with the lack of answers they have provided so far.
Jun 13, 2022, 5:11 pm
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Arriving into Terminal 2 SFO-NRT on JAL, then planning to take the shuttle to Terminal 1 and check into the Ethiopian flight in the meantime. There is no Ethiopian check in desk at SFO so would need to do so at NRT.
Jun 13, 2022, 11:06 pm
#702
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I have a flight with an overnight layover in NGO - Nagoya Airport in AUGUST. By the looks of it there are no AIRSIDE hotels. Are the COVID rules flexible enough that I could enter Japan briefly to go to a connected hotel? Escorted if need be. Or will I have to slum it out in the terminal? Thanks.
Though I do see there is a Centrair hotel, but again, doesn't appear to be airside.
https://www.meitetsu-gh.co.jp/centrairhotel/en/
EDIT: I realize there are several other hotels as well.
https://www.sleepinginairports.net/g...ide.htm#hotels
Though I do see there is a Centrair hotel, but again, doesn't appear to be airside.
https://www.meitetsu-gh.co.jp/centrairhotel/en/
EDIT: I realize there are several other hotels as well.
https://www.sleepinginairports.net/g...ide.htm#hotels
Jun 13, 2022, 11:16 pm
#703
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I have a flight with an overnight layover in NGO - Nagoya Airport in AUGUST. By the looks of it there are no AIRSIDE hotels. Are the COVID rules flexible enough that I could enter Japan briefly to go to a connected hotel? Escorted if need be. Or will I have to slum it out in the terminal? Thanks.
Though I do see there is a Centrair hotel, but again, doesn't appear to be airside.
https://www.meitetsu-gh.co.jp/centrairhotel/en/
EDIT: I realize there are several other hotels as well.
https://www.sleepinginairports.net/g...ide.htm#hotels
Though I do see there is a Centrair hotel, but again, doesn't appear to be airside.
https://www.meitetsu-gh.co.jp/centrairhotel/en/
EDIT: I realize there are several other hotels as well.
https://www.sleepinginairports.net/g...ide.htm#hotels
Also found this: the TUBE SQ hotel. Not sure if it was on the airport map. Well..anyone with first hand experience, comments welcome. It appears to say arrival lobby, so not airside, but maybe they can make an exception somehow. Don't know. sending email.
Jun 13, 2022, 11:19 pm
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There has been no reports of people specifically transferring to Ethiopian though.
Jun 14, 2022, 10:50 am
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https://tubesq.jp/en/
Also found this: the TUBE SQ hotel. Not sure if it was on the airport map. Well..anyone with first hand experience, comments welcome. It appears to say arrival lobby, so not airside, but maybe they can make an exception somehow. Don't know. sending email.
Also found this: the TUBE SQ hotel. Not sure if it was on the airport map. Well..anyone with first hand experience, comments welcome. It appears to say arrival lobby, so not airside, but maybe they can make an exception somehow. Don't know. sending email.
Unfortunately our hotel is on the 1st floor of terminal 1st outside the restricted area. So if you don't have visa I'm afraid you wouldn't stay at our hotel.
Sorry for inconvinient.
Sorry for inconvinient.
Edit: If I know Japan, there is ZERO 'flexibility' in their visa/quarantine rules...