May 21, 2020, 5:59 pm
Japan Transit/Connection/Layover Master Thread
Jun 19, 2022, 7:06 pm
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Jun 19, 2022, 9:49 pm
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my upcoming itinerary for the first two weeks of July to avoid the HND-GMP issue:
LAX-ICN Itinerary:
AA F LAX-LAS-ORD (arrive @ 5:16am)
JAL F (aa award) ORD-NRT (leaves 12:40pm, arrives 3:35pm)
KE Y NRT-ICN (leaves 5:20pm)
ICN-LAX itinerary:
KE Y ICN-NRT (arrives @ 1:30PM)
JAL F (as award) NRT-LAX (leaves @ 5:20pm)
A bit round about, and I had to pay $240 for the AA flight out of pocket (upgraded with SWU), but it gets me there and back mostly on points
LAX-ICN Itinerary:
AA F LAX-LAS-ORD (arrive @ 5:16am)
JAL F (aa award) ORD-NRT (leaves 12:40pm, arrives 3:35pm)
KE Y NRT-ICN (leaves 5:20pm)
ICN-LAX itinerary:
KE Y ICN-NRT (arrives @ 1:30PM)
JAL F (as award) NRT-LAX (leaves @ 5:20pm)
A bit round about, and I had to pay $240 for the AA flight out of pocket (upgraded with SWU), but it gets me there and back mostly on points
Hi. Based on your post then ---- there are no issues transiting NRT now on separate tickets?
I can get a LM award ticket from NRT to USA but still need a separate ticket to NRT.
Thanks much
Jun 19, 2022, 10:14 pm
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Also keep an eye on connection times since you likely won't have protections on separate tickets as you would on a single ticket in case of a missed missed flight due to delays, so give yourself as much time as you need to be comfortable, especially if you're not familiar with the airport.
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Jun 19, 2022, 11:21 pm
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thanks. one way NH Econ fares from HKG - NRt are running 1k USD - bleh. KE HKG - ICN - NRT is half at 500 USD but a lot of flying and as you said then maybe carry on only.
Will see (HKG is such a black hole to get in and out of)
Will see (HKG is such a black hole to get in and out of)
Jun 20, 2022, 9:44 am
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Yeah I saw that when I was looking in to my transfer as well, but it looks like you just stay on the same bus that goes between all 3 terminals, and it will just make a stop at T3 first then on to T2. So 10 minutes to T3, 3 minutes to T2. Keep an eye on AC3 though, it appears to have a terrible on time track record, usually arriving between 4 and 4:30, which means you will be zooming across terminals like I will if you happen to be on one of those late flights. But if you have your boarding pass and you are carryon only, you should be able to make it.
Jun 20, 2022, 2:10 pm
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Question: What happens if you misconnect at NRT and you dont have a visa??
No other same day departures, next possible flight is the next day...
Say arrive JAL at 5PM, scheduled to depart JAL at 6pm and something glitches....what do they do with you overnight?
No other same day departures, next possible flight is the next day...
Say arrive JAL at 5PM, scheduled to depart JAL at 6pm and something glitches....what do they do with you overnight?
Jun 20, 2022, 3:22 pm
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Thanks - do you know if the airside bus from T1 to T2 directly not running according to this? https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/access/shuttlebus
In this case, would it require me stopping at T3 first, and then T2?
In this case, would it require me stopping at T3 first, and then T2?
https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/con...nter_inter_t1/
Jun 20, 2022, 5:29 pm
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check up a few posts, I posted an account from someone on reddit who was allowed to board even though they had a NRT/HND transfer. YMMV of course.
Jun 20, 2022, 5:41 pm
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Im trying to discover what the Japanese/NRT policy is to deal with a 'legal' connection that collapses due to -shall we say- force majeure. and in turn requires an overnight wait.
I would guess two possibilities:
1. Room with a guard for anyone that has to stay, cots, snacks perhaps
2. Pass for a hotel at airport. (ie a kind of 'emergency visa' for one day)
Jun 20, 2022, 5:46 pm
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It does not mean you should plan for it.
Jun 20, 2022, 6:20 pm
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Mistakenly allowed to board, I am sure that the airline was fined for bringing in a passenger on an impossible connection. Somewhat lucky that Japan sometimes can be pragmatic. There are also cases of people who have overnighted in Narita due to missed connections.
It does not mean you should plan for it.
It does not mean you should plan for it.
Jun 20, 2022, 6:31 pm
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There was the story of some Air Canada passengers that got stuck for 3 days (or thereabouts) due to a missed connection to China. Neither thrown in jail nor returned to Canada. Especially on a missed connection, I would expect them to find an unlisted pragmatic solution. Though with some risk of "return to sender".....
Jun 22, 2022, 4:21 pm
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JAL, ANA and KE flights between are starting beginning of July, with JAL and ANA alternating availability up to mid-July.
Looking at the pattern, looks like July 22nd will be ANA...
I would seriously hope that ANA will do an interline baggage transfer to JAL......
Looking at the pattern, looks like July 22nd will be ANA...
I would seriously hope that ANA will do an interline baggage transfer to JAL......
Jun 22, 2022, 6:24 pm
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I think you're missing a couple words, it's between HND and GMP. I've read that the first flights are on 6/30 and airlines will start out taking turns.