Yaatri

News is new information, not a snippet that makes a big splash.

Keyser

navjot singh siddhu can never be wrong....

Yaatri

I must have a death wish. Mr. Siddhu has no sense of rhyme or reason.

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride
If turnips were swords, i'd wear one by my side
If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
there'd be no need for tinkers' hands.

Keyser

there is nothing wrong with any of these....sidhuism rocks....

Yaatri

In that case, we can blame it on lack of reason.

Keyser

quite true....there is no reason behind sidhuisms....

J_Fleish

AI had entry barriers due to their IT and Star Alliance invited them to join in 2007. I fully understand y they were booted from joining after 3 years of waiting for them to join and not enough progress was made how much longer was star alliance supposed to wait for them to be fully ready to join. Jet Airways is way closer to Star Alliance then sky team with a hub at brussels which is a star alliance hub.

d3vski

Now that Jet are on a one way road which ends with Star Membership and as Jet think they are as good as SQ.....here is my wish list of improvements:

1) Better ground facilities at BOM and DEL. A premium check in area combined with a dedicated lounge facility matching the standards of SQ and LH. I'm sorry but a personal escort and the use of the LH lounge does not cut the mustard with me.

2) Better reward seat availability otherwise anyone with a half decent brain cell will switch to Miles and More or United's Mileage Plus.

3) Improvement onboard with an updated IFE, Catering (improvement on the western side). Jet are stagnating.

4) Improvements in the domestic product. Kill of Jet Konnect now that you have the elusive star feed.

5) Genuine BOM or DEL hub. Where domestic flights can feed international flights within a 2-3 hr window and vice versa.

6) A few new routes to places like Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, Zurich, Frankfurt, Paris, Addis Ababa etc etc.

jasepl

You're well in the realm of fantasy with those! Best to stick to something more realistic.

This is Jet, remember? Improvements to the customer experience are anathema. Unless it's crockery.

d3vski

I must be delirious from the 28 cups of black coffee i had this morning...

jasepl

Ouch ! 28 ? Rough night last night ?

Seriously though, Jet's biggest fail, in my opinion, comes at the airport, especially at their home base.

There really is no difference in terms of ground services or amenities when flying Jet Airways or Al Yemda out of Bombay.

d3vski

Totally agree...they are shockingly bad on the ground.

International wise out of BOM they have:

2 x LHR (76 premium seats)
1 x BRU-EWR (30)
1 x HKG (30)
1 x SIN (30)
2 x BKK (32)
3 x DXB (44)
1 x DOH (16)
1 x AUH (16)
1 x RUH (16)
1 x KTM (16)
1 x CMB (16)
1 x DAC (16)
1 x MCT (16)
1 x RUH (16)
1 x KWI (16)
and probably a few more middle east flights making a grant total of at least:

386 premium seats per day through BOM and they cannot even provide a basic lounge for their home clientele. All this excuse waiting for new terminal is crap. They have been flying international for about almost 8 years with zero ground experiance improvement.

Even in its international heyday at around 2007-2008, there unique selling point was the escort from check in to the gate and hilariously the ground staff even pointed me to the wrong seat.

Had booked 1a and she pointed to 2a whilst proudly proclaiming that it was 1a!

I know that Kingfisher has been the butt of many jokes recently but at least they tried to create a lounge for their international travellers. They had a complex in Bangalore and had something in Delhi before it all went pear shaped!

A damn sight better than what Jet have attempted.

jasepl

Hong Kong has First too (never mind that it's perpetually empty) plus there's 4 flights to Dubai I think and more than a daily to a couple of other destinations. There's also Bahrain and Dammam and Sharjah and Jeddah

So maybe 450-ish seats, which isn't a small number (though dismally low as a proportion of overall capacity - BA have as many F+J seats on one flight as Jet do on both combined, never mind WTP).

And what do you mean attempted? Jet haven't attempted anything at BOM, where they're just Al Yemda in Roberto Cappucci clothing.

But that's patent Jet : after the hosre has bolted. Maybe.

A2A

truth is they don't want to invest in Lounges. For example, Delhi has enough place for new lounges to come up, even LH and SQ have put up lounges there, so, 9W is not getting the space is crap.

d3vski

That is probably about 10% of its international capacity which is incredibly poor considering that they are paying over the top fuel costs for half their flights (naturally as they all begin and end in India).

They failed to grasp the premium market a few years ago. They have finally revamped their B77W capacity but instead of putting in more J and possibly having a Y+ product, they go and stick in an extra 30 Y seats. All they are doing is diluting their yields by adding more southall travel cheap as chips tickets.

They will find that they need to sell even more premium tickets to compensate for the high loads/low yields down the back. I can say with great confidence that no Indian or Indian origin pax travelling on Jet Airways economy pays more than the highest of the 3 lowest fare buckets...T, N, V class (whatever the 3 lowest are).

By adding more backpack groups and trying to feed DAC, KTM, BKK etc etc they are not exactly making any extra revenue. E.g LHR-BOM returns cost about £500 whereas LHR-BOM-BKK return costs £550. So all Jet are getting is an extra £50 for another 6 hours of flying.

Bonkers! Premium fares are where the money is. Their premium to Economy ratio is too low!