Jet and the Star Alliance. Will they / Won't they?
Aug 27, 2012, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by IA article
“We do not know how much will we benefit by joining the alliance with Singapore already a member. There is a thinking that the benefits will not be much from Star Alliance and our talks with the other two airline alliances is also on,” he said.
Jet will be crushed between SQ and LH if it joins the alliance.
Is this IA reporter expressing his opinion, or facts? Intrigue and rama continues.
Originally Posted by IA arrticle
To facilitate Jet Airways’ entry, Star Alliance had put a condition before the civil aviation ministry to allow both Air India and Jet Airways to join the alliance together. The ministry, however, had said that Jet will only be allowed to join after Air India completes its joining.
After keeping Air India’s membership on hold for a year, the alliance decided not tosuspend accept the national carrier’s membership on the ground that it had not fulfilled the criteria it had agreed to.
After keeping Air India’s membership on hold for a year, the alliance decided not to
Aug 27, 2012, 8:56 am
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I think you're giving Jet far too much credit. I imagine, rather, that the decision was precipitated by a conversation more on the lines of:
NG : Arrey, Anita, now new vanda's come. Star looked like a done deal after the beastly Air India realised they can't stand in our way for anything (your idea of 10 khokhas instead of two helped, of course!).
AG : What happened now?
NG : Arrey, Anita, now Star is making all these demands. They want to make sure we make changes to be in line with the rest of the alliance.
AG : What are they talking about? There's nothing we need to change... We're perfect as we are. If anything, they need to change to be more like us.
NG : I know, right? But, arrey, Anita, they're going on about things like connectivity, image, standards and the like. And - get this - your pet Jet Privilege.
AG : W%$%T&*@F? What? Who do they think they are? Don't they know we're Jet Airways? We're the best. Everything about us is the best. Ever. We don't need to improve anything. Hell, we couldn't even if we wanted to, because there is no room for improvement. We're that good. And I've made sure of that.
NG : I know, Anita, I know. But arrey, Anita, what to do.
AG : Let's call Paris and London and see what they offer us. Shouldn't be a problem, because everyone knows we're amazing and they would be lucky to have us.
NG : Arrey, Anita.... you're a genius!
AG : I know!
NG : Arrey, Anita, now new vanda's come. Star looked like a done deal after the beastly Air India realised they can't stand in our way for anything (your idea of 10 khokhas instead of two helped, of course!).
AG : What happened now?
NG : Arrey, Anita, now Star is making all these demands. They want to make sure we make changes to be in line with the rest of the alliance.
AG : What are they talking about? There's nothing we need to change... We're perfect as we are. If anything, they need to change to be more like us.
NG : I know, right? But, arrey, Anita, they're going on about things like connectivity, image, standards and the like. And - get this - your pet Jet Privilege.
AG : W%$%T&*@F? What? Who do they think they are? Don't they know we're Jet Airways? We're the best. Everything about us is the best. Ever. We don't need to improve anything. Hell, we couldn't even if we wanted to, because there is no room for improvement. We're that good. And I've made sure of that.
NG : I know, Anita, I know. But arrey, Anita, what to do.
AG : Let's call Paris and London and see what they offer us. Shouldn't be a problem, because everyone knows we're amazing and they would be lucky to have us.
NG : Arrey, Anita.... you're a genius!
AG : I know!
Aug 27, 2012, 9:14 am
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You know, I think its gotten to the point where all the alliances should just give up on recruiting an indian member for a little while. All the airlines there have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are completely inept/insane.
Aug 27, 2012, 3:18 pm
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Jet should join oneworld. Less competition than Star, but at the same time oneworld has decent coverage of India that travellers will start to consider Jet for their travels. The rest of the oneworld charge fuel surcharges on mileage redemption and this will be in line with Jet's redemption.
Aug 27, 2012, 4:54 pm
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Jet should join oneworld. Less competition than Star, but at the same time oneworld has decent coverage of India that travellers will start to consider Jet for their travels. The rest of the oneworld charge fuel surcharges on mileage redemption and this will be in line with Jet's redemption.
Aug 28, 2012, 2:08 am
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Aug 28, 2012, 3:29 am
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OW should step-up and get Jet or Etihad to sign up.. OW loses a lot from lack of decent South Asian partner.. RJ is there but its strength probably lies only in GULF whereas Etihad gives global coverage and Jet gives a lot of Indian Subcontinent options.. OW has stayed stagnant for toooo long..
Aug 28, 2012, 3:49 am
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OW should step-up and get Jet or Etihad to sign up.. OW loses a lot from lack of decent South Asian partner.. RJ is there but its strength probably lies only in GULF whereas Etihad gives global coverage and Jet gives a lot of Indian Subcontinent options.. OW has stayed stagnant for toooo long..
However, one thing 9W lacks that most of the other lead OW airlines have is one or more true hubs. BOM doesn't count yet; at least not until the international and domestic connection processes are far more seamless (if not equivalent to, at least aspiring to SIN, HKG etc. for international - and say what you like about AA, no OW member can beat them for ease of domestic connections); until world-class lounges (if not the CCR, at least equivalent to Galleries) are in place and dedicated to OW and not shared; etc. DEL could work if 9W chose to hub there rather than BOM - but IMO 9W isn't yet big enough to have two major hubs (witness BA
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Aug 28, 2012, 10:20 am
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http://www.livemint.com/2012/08/2819...nsa-s.html?h=B
Could this be it?
Also, on the bit on SriLankan Airlines, that is confirmed.
The civil aviation ministry has approved a strategic alliance between Jet Airways (India) Ltd, the country’s largest airline by passengers carried, and Deutsche Lufthansa AG that will enable them to sell seats across each other’s networks, in the process pushing state-owned Air India deeper into the red.
Also, on the bit on SriLankan Airlines, that is confirmed.
Aug 29, 2012, 3:58 am
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Regardless, this is a good thing. Enough of stupid ministry and even stupider Air India standing in the way for anything.
That said, what is this going to achieve that isn't already happening?
I fear that by hooking it up with Lufthansa, Jet are basically going to ensure they will do for LH in the Subcontinent what Adria do in the Balkans.
Aug 30, 2012, 9:39 pm
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In the meantime, Aerolineas are the latest to join an alliance : Skyteam effective today.
It's amazing how our airlines think the competition is static and the world is going to wait for them. Air India and Jet Airways will continue to delude themselves into thinking they're far more important than they actually are.
It's amazing how our airlines think the competition is static and the world is going to wait for them. Air India and Jet Airways will continue to delude themselves into thinking they're far more important than they actually are.
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Aug 31, 2012, 1:42 am
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Aug 31, 2012, 9:57 am
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I agree.
How can the airport be blamed when your flight from Johannesburg arrives at 11pm and your "connection" departs at 7 am ? Or when your flight from Goa lands at 8pm and your "connection" to Brussels departs at 3 am?
Why would anyone in their right mind not choose to FlyEmirates ?
Forget Sahar and even Palam. If Jet were given free reign of Changi, do you think they would see any more success, with flight times, ground services and so much else the way they are?
How can the airport be blamed when your flight from Johannesburg arrives at 11pm and your "connection" departs at 7 am ? Or when your flight from Goa lands at 8pm and your "connection" to Brussels departs at 3 am?
Why would anyone in their right mind not choose to FlyEmirates ?
Forget Sahar and even Palam. If Jet were given free reign of Changi, do you think they would see any more success, with flight times, ground services and so much else the way they are?
Aug 31, 2012, 11:17 am
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I agree.
How can the airport be blamed when your flight from Johannesburg arrives at 11pm and your "connection" departs at 7 am ? Or when your flight from Goa lands at 8pm and your "connection" to Brussels departs at 3 am?
Why would anyone in their right mind not choose to FlyEmirates ?
Forget Sahar and even Palam. If Jet were given free reign of Changi, do you think they would see any more success, with flight times, ground services and so much else the way they are?
I agree.
How can the airport be blamed when your flight from Johannesburg arrives at 11pm and your "connection" departs at 7 am ? Or when your flight from Goa lands at 8pm and your "connection" to Brussels departs at 3 am?
Why would anyone in their right mind not choose to FlyEmirates ?
Forget Sahar and even Palam. If Jet were given free reign of Changi, do you think they would see any more success, with flight times, ground services and so much else the way they are?
