Jet and the Star Alliance. Will they / Won't they?
Aug 1, 2012, 6:24 am
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They Unfortunatly cancelled the 77W's that used to fly BOM/DEL-BRU-EWR & BOM-PVG-SFO (only used on LHR routes now). I was told by a pilot the last time I flew them ( Ex CO Capt) that they just put so much money into those suites in F & the C configuration that these planes are very heavy. The cant make $$ with them in flights to the US since F & C fares are not so high
TG leases some of them now and people love them in F. I've heard of people going out of there way to fly TG from FRA or CDG just to fly on these Jet 77W's
TG leases some of them now and people love them in F. I've heard of people going out of there way to fly TG from FRA or CDG just to fly on these Jet 77W's
Aug 1, 2012, 6:58 am
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Yep. I can see this happening. Unless NG pays his way through which I think he might.
I have been lucky enough to have flown most of the top First class products out there and I have to say that Jet First is my second favorite. This is after Etihad who offer the same cabin as Jet in F.
I wasn't aware of the 330's. When and how many?
Aug 1, 2012, 7:11 am
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Actually, the biggest slap in the face was not the way *A treated them. Hell, they are used to that. It's the fact that they let ET join and the timing.
9W makes sense for *A now for a bunch of reasons. Brussels Air & Jet both have hubs in BRU which don't compete at all. Would be a nice way for passengers from Europe to get to India/Asia not to mention a new transit spot between Africa/India.
9W makes sense for *A now for a bunch of reasons. Brussels Air & Jet both have hubs in BRU which don't compete at all. Would be a nice way for passengers from Europe to get to India/Asia not to mention a new transit spot between Africa/India.
As far as connections to Africa are concerned, other than for Indians peddling Chinese junk in Africa, connections to Africa above the equator is hardly an important consideration for Indian flyers.
9W would eaten alive by LH. But they do want *A.
Aug 1, 2012, 7:23 am
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http://www.livemint.com/2012/07/3123...ernment-n.html
New Delhi: Naresh Goyal-controlled Jet Airways (India) Ltd, the country’s biggest carrier, has sought government permission to join the world’s largest airline grouping, Star Alliance Services GmbH, putting the aviation ministry in a bit of a spot.
It looks as though 9W have finally declared their preference. I wonder what , if anything, will happen next.
Will the Government:
give its blessing
say "No"
or just ignore the request for a few years ?
New Delhi: Naresh Goyal-controlled Jet Airways (India) Ltd, the country’s biggest carrier, has sought government permission to join the world’s largest airline grouping, Star Alliance Services GmbH, putting the aviation ministry in a bit of a spot.
It looks as though 9W have finally declared their preference. I wonder what , if anything, will happen next.
Will the Government:
give its blessing
say "No"
or just ignore the request for a few years ?
Originally Posted by LiveMint
"We are pleased to inform you that we have made the decision to join Star Alliance,” Jet Airways senior vice-president, planning and alliance, Raj Sivakumar, said in a 16 July letter to aviation secretary Syed Nasim Zaidi.
There is a growing number of blogs that quote no sources. Once something appears on a blog, every other blogs uses the same bit of information without adding to the original blog in information or verity.
Aug 1, 2012, 7:51 am
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Actually, the biggest slap in the face was not the way *A treated them. Hell, they are used to that. It's the fact that they let ET join and the timing.
9W makes sense for *A now for a bunch of reasons. Brussels Air & Jet both have hubs in BRU which don't compete at all. Would be a nice way for passengers from Europe to get to India/Asia not to mention a new transit spot between Africa/India.
For what it's worth, I've taken a number of 9W flights between LHR-BOM and EWR-BRU-BOM, all on the 77W in F and they are a fantastic airline, every bit as good as SQ IMHO
9W makes sense for *A now for a bunch of reasons. Brussels Air & Jet both have hubs in BRU which don't compete at all. Would be a nice way for passengers from Europe to get to India/Asia not to mention a new transit spot between Africa/India.
For what it's worth, I've taken a number of 9W flights between LHR-BOM and EWR-BRU-BOM, all on the 77W in F and they are a fantastic airline, every bit as good as SQ IMHO
9W in economy class for long-haul international flights in coach is now worse than when 9W first started service beyond Asia.
I hope that 9W is able to get into Star Alliance but I am not counting on it happening anytime very soon.
Aug 1, 2012, 7:55 am
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Anti-trust-/competition-undermining concerns. These kind of concerns (about consumer-unfriendly outcomes) and needs for government approval are not unique to India. Even US and European carriers have sought and attained such approval from their own governments so as to join up in an alliance.
Aug 1, 2012, 7:57 am
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Time to let go or time to draw the line?
It's clear that Jet prefers *A and *A prefers Jet.
Since *A, more specifically LH is not interested in having AI on board and most Indian *A members overwhelmingly prefer Jet, it's about time GoI realised that it's been had and let the industry decide for itself.
There is a reason why Jet was never formally invited or why Jet never made any formal declaration of its intent. Any declaration of intent from either side would have made the charade of AI being mentored by Lufthansa to join the alliance.
While it makes sense to punish LH, it's irresponsible to punish the industry by condemning to limbo .
Let Jet Go. But do punish LH and *A.
Alternatively, if IT dies, as it it increasingly looks like it will, SKyTeam and OneWorld can divvy up Jet and AI leaving *A high and dry.
LH has been pushing the line. GoI needs to draw a firm line and take the cue from Farragut.
In either case, there should be immediate repercussions for LH.
Since *A, more specifically LH is not interested in having AI on board and most Indian *A members overwhelmingly prefer Jet, it's about time GoI realised that it's been had and let the industry decide for itself.
There is a reason why Jet was never formally invited or why Jet never made any formal declaration of its intent. Any declaration of intent from either side would have made the charade of AI being mentored by Lufthansa to join the alliance.
While it makes sense to punish LH, it's irresponsible to punish the industry by condemning to limbo .
Let Jet Go. But do punish LH and *A.
Alternatively, if IT dies, as it it increasingly looks like it will, SKyTeam and OneWorld can divvy up Jet and AI leaving *A high and dry.
LH has been pushing the line. GoI needs to draw a firm line and take the cue from Farragut.
In either case, there should be immediate repercussions for LH.
Aug 1, 2012, 8:08 am
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and hands over all Germany-India slots to AirBerlin ie OW 
Aug 1, 2012, 8:20 am
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Who is TG? To be honest with you I have had more success with TG F then with SQ F and Jet F.
Yep. I can see this happening. Unless NG pays his way through which I think he might.
I have been lucky enough to have flown most of the top First class products out there and I have to say that Jet First is my second favorite. This is after Etihad who offer the same cabin as Jet in F.
I wasn't aware of the 330's. When and how many?
Yep. I can see this happening. Unless NG pays his way through which I think he might.
I have been lucky enough to have flown most of the top First class products out there and I have to say that Jet First is my second favorite. This is after Etihad who offer the same cabin as Jet in F.
I wasn't aware of the 330's. When and how many?
Aug 1, 2012, 8:22 am
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Aug 1, 2012, 8:26 am
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Aug 1, 2012, 8:31 am
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Are you sure it's a mulberry bush? 
*A doesn't need any airline to either supplement or complement its network outside India. If Jet is content with a couple of flights to Brussels and flying to SE Asia, West Asia, it would fit well with *A. Jet will have its; wings clipped in *A.
With SkyTeam it can grow.
With SkyTeam it can grow.
Aug 1, 2012, 8:33 am
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Aug 1, 2012, 11:36 am
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As for the source, it is the Mint news paper which accessed the documents and confirmed sighting them. It is present at the beginning of this thread.
Talking about blogs, one for the road on this series of events...
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/livefr...rd-time-lucky/