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slippahs, Hawaii forum co-moderator
Aloha - as a reminder to all, FT's rules specifically state: "FlyerTalk exists for the discussion of frequent flyer programs and the related travel experience. With the exception of the few areas specifically designated for the discussion of other topics, confine your comments as closely as possible to these topic areas and to the topic of the thread and forum in which you are posting." FlyinHawaiian and I recognize that it is easy to intertwine political commentary with the policies advanced by politicians that affect travel to Hawaii. However, we ask that you keep in mind the nature of this Hawaii forum and focus your attention on the policies and their impact on travel to/from/within Hawaii. Commentary about Hawaii's politicians are off-topic, belong in the OMNI forum, and will be deleted if posted on this thread. We ask for your kokua and cooperation. If you have any questions, please let us know.
Mahalo,
slippahs, Hawaii forum co-moderator
When will Hawaii re-open for tourism?
#811
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: san francisco.
Programs: Marriott Ti, OW Ruby
Posts: 1,852
I canceled our own September plans yesterday as I had that " its not going to be happening " feeling
#812
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Rochester, MN
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton HHonors Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,830
But at what cost? We could stop every virus from spreading by locking everyone in their house forever. We could also stop every automobile fatality by banning cars. We could stop obesity by banning crappy food (and ironically save far more people than have died of Covid).
Nearly six months ago we were told the whole purpose of this was to "flatten the curve." Well, here we are and apparently whatever they are doing isn't working. I'm not saying I have the answers but just leaving the entire state shutdown from it's revenue stream indefinitely is sure a questionable way to proceed. How long does this go on? What if a vaccine doesn't happen? Is Hawaii just closed forever?
Nearly six months ago we were told the whole purpose of this was to "flatten the curve." Well, here we are and apparently whatever they are doing isn't working. I'm not saying I have the answers but just leaving the entire state shutdown from it's revenue stream indefinitely is sure a questionable way to proceed. How long does this go on? What if a vaccine doesn't happen? Is Hawaii just closed forever?
#813
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,178
#814
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kamuela, HI
Programs: AA-Plat
Posts: 462
We were there this past Sunday for a benefit for Kahilu Theatre - Mauna Lani has become a partner with Kahilu during this time so that live performances can move forward - 40 lawn seating and 50 restaurant so there was no crowd and quite a bit of social distancing
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#815
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
I was supposed to go in May, and had just submitted the paperwork to get my dog on the islands - which was NOT an inexpensive proposition. Then the virus hit and we postponed to November, hoping we could go. It looks like we'll be cancelling yet again. While I certainly wouldn't mind being stuck in our reserved suite, I think it means we can't leave it, not even to go for a walk.
#816
Join Date: May 2000
Location: IAH
Programs: UA 1K 2.7MM, Marriott Titanium/LT Plat, IHG Spire
Posts: 3,317
I was supposed to go in May, and had just submitted the paperwork to get my dog on the islands - which was NOT an inexpensive proposition. Then the virus hit and we postponed to November, hoping we could go. It looks like we'll be cancelling yet again. While I certainly wouldn't mind being stuck in our reserved suite, I think it means we can't leave it, not even to go for a walk.
#817
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: TOA
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Posts: 20,061
Uh, when the state stops screwing around...State Was Lying To Us About Contact Tracing, Gabbard Says
oboy.
David
oboy.
David
#818
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,178
They said as long as they get 50-60 guests for dinner, they can keep the restaurant open. But due to union rules, the hotel couldn't reopen without mainland tourists coming in. While there's some kama'ainna that would visit, it wouldn't be enough to warrant the minimum staffing levels that the union requires.
I suppose it's more economical for the resorts to stay shuttered than to even open up a tower or floor or two to accommodate locals with cash to spend.
The carrying costs of keeping the Four Seasons at Hualalai, the Hilton Waikoloa Village, and the HGVC Kings Land there but closed have to be incredible. Just the electric bill (or property tax bill) have to be outrageous.
#819
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 54
Uh, when the state stops screwing around...State Was Lying To Us About Contact Tracing, Gabbard Says
oboy.
David
oboy.
David
#820
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,620
Hey, per your original comment I am now hearing they are enforcing the beach closures state wide so you may not be wrong about that after all. Still in quarantine in Kona so direct information is limited but that is what my surfer nephew is saying fwiw. He said he was told to take his board (at Banyans), enter the water, then when done sufering leave by local police. No lingering on the beach. He is life long local here. Any more recent updates on this?
#821
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,178
I was supposed to go in May, and had just submitted the paperwork to get my dog on the islands - which was NOT an inexpensive proposition. Then the virus hit and we postponed to November, hoping we could go. It looks like we'll be cancelling yet again. While I certainly wouldn't mind being stuck in our reserved suite, I think it means we can't leave it, not even to go for a walk.
#822
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,620
I was supposed to go in May, and had just submitted the paperwork to get my dog on the islands - which was NOT an inexpensive proposition. Then the virus hit and we postponed to November, hoping we could go. It looks like we'll be cancelling yet again. While I certainly wouldn't mind being stuck in our reserved suite, I think it means we can't leave it, not even to go for a walk.
We cancelled several times as some on this board will tell you until I final just had to go for work/financial reasons. I am half way through quarantine and I can tell you traveling here wasn't easy. They quarantine is a hassle but at least I have a yard I can sit in and walk my dog. I plan to leave the middle of next month and return in late Nov/Dec, HOPEFULLY there will be no quarantine at that time as I would absolutely hate repeating this. Good Luck!
#823
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kamuela, HI
Programs: AA-Plat
Posts: 462
Along the same lines, Merriman's Waimea just opened to modified outdoor dining this week. Merrimans at least has a local clientele which may help. I am not sure CanoeHouse can sustain as it is a special occasion restaurant and relies on hotel guests but I am going to remain optimistic.
#824
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA USA
Programs: UA 1KMM, Bonvoy LTE+A, HH D, Nat'l EE, Hertz Plat, Avis PC
Posts: 3,713
#825
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,178