nomad420

To my point, are you required to have food delivered during this time? Obviously you have to eat. In my case it would be difficult to have family members deliver food to me as I am quite a drive from them on the Big Island. Also, I live in a house not a condo so no "common area" issue but I would like to exercise and if possible go to the beach which is basically across the street. So if you are fortunate enough to have beach front property is it then OK to use your "own" beach? Too many questions in my mind and I don't want to get in trouble with self righteous locals or the "corona police". Standing by now in CA but not sure how long I can hold out.

bpe

What about out-of-state visitors who have already quarantined for 14 days or those exempt from quarantine (airline crews, medical staff, government workers etc...)? Besides, not everyone in Hawaii or any other state has to have a state ID. I never had a drivers licence or state ID until I was 21.

I feel that what annoys people is the constantly-changing details of the rules and enforcement along with borderline illegal/unconstitutional behavior that discriminates against people, rather than their behavior. For instance, telling people that they cannot move to Hawaii now doesn't seem legal to me (I'm no expert by any means), but anyway there are are still people who will try to, some with and some without legitimate reasons to do so now. However, removing the 'intended resident' from the form isn't going to stop those who really want to move, it's just going to confuse and potentially annoy them. As long as they behave properly and quarantine for 14 days and follow the same rules as residents and everyone else, why should it matter what their residential status is?

HawaiiSailor

There’s no minimum uber eats $ commitment if that’s what your asking . Yeah you’re not supposed to leave your property, sounds like the beach isn’t on your property. Will anyone notice, care, check on, or report on what you’re up to? Probably not, but YMMV.

No one is stopping anyone from moving to Hawaii tomorrow. For the purposes of the form though you’ll just be classified as a visitor until you get a Hawaii ID or otherwise prove residency. But this distinction doesn’t change anything about your quarantine requirement currently.

mtofell

With the number of questions about the quarantine rules, I'm guessing many have never read them. Here they are the protocol is VERY clear:

https://www.hawaiitourismauthority.o...l-coronavirus/

bpe

Then keeping the 'intended resident' category on the form would be more accurate for everyone.

But again, as long as everyone follows the same quarantine rules your resident status shouldn't even matter.

HawaiiSailor

Yeah that box has been confusing for people. Many islanders assume that means many of them are homeless. The quarantine requirement is the same currently regardless of which box you check.

747FC

I'm sure that you are a very talented and smart person, but your constant questioning about this reality is very confusing to me. You should know that beaches are public, so NO you cannot go to the beach. And yes, you have to have your food delivered.

747FC

News conference on now. I saw an advance copy of the order, which will continue until the end of June.

Boraxo

Exactly. As much as I disagree with quarantining people who are presumed healthy, there is no illegal discrimination here because both new and returning residents are required to quarantine for 2 weeks. In fact the only people who are likely to visit now are new or existing residents as most of us don't plan to spend our vacations locked up.

Exactly. Just like our Santa Clara Health Officer who was the first one to issue a quarantine order. She said the lockdown continues so long as there are any new cases. Which of course means forever until there is a vaccine or cure.

Interesting how Iceland is able to re-open with instant testing and contact tracing apps but Hawaii is not.

dhuey

Yes, FWIW, I read the restrictions for 14-day quarantine, and they looked crystal clear to me. Upon arrival, I would need to go straight to a rental. No common areas of a multi-unit property (such as pool, fitness center). No one can visit my space except medical professional. I can't leave except for medical care or to go home.

Whatever the merits of this policy, it's easy to understand.

ajf87

It's pretty shocking at this point, the entitlement and willful ignorance. This is part of the reason why there is simmering tension between native and local Hawaiians and privileged, wealthy mainlanders and foreign tourists who own vacation homes (and thus help contribute to the state's housing crisis). That any property owner considers the beach in front of the beachfront property as their "own" is pretty arrogant and not grounded in reality. The beaches in Hawaii are all public, regardless of how much money you paid for your view.

HawaiiSailor

We’ll get there. Iceland doesn’t have the US Fed to backstop it, nor a 300m audience of potential domestic visitors, nor a tropical year-round climate. It also has sovereign border control, a fifth the people that Hawaii has, more antibodies in the populace, nearly 0 new cases in the last 2 weeks, and doesn’t need to comply with federal regulations nor the US Constitution.

Iceland needs to do it fast before summer is gone, Hawaii needs do it right before winter peak season starts. And getting the kids safely back to school early August is really really critical.

KeaauFlyer

Our Governor here in Hawaii announced this afternoon that the 14-day quarantine on arriving passengers will be extended at least through the end of June. Stronger quarantine enforcement efforts were announced over the past few days as well. Here is a link to a very barebones article that describes this, but do realize that these pieces tend to quickly go behind a paywall on the Star-Advertiser site once they are fleshed out for later versions:

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...rough-june-30/

Also, it should be noted that this guy has been wishy-washy and had to backtrack on some previous pronouncements. Having said that, the arrivals quarantine has been popular here despite the devastating effect it has had on tourism. At some point pressure will build to reverse it, probably when the state unemployment fund is exhausted. Some of us, myself included, see the pandemic as a wake-up call to diversify our economy, but it will take a very long time and more courage than we are accustomed to seeing from Hawaii politicians to do that.

ksucats

That is disappointing. I was hoping they would at least try to start relaxing the mandatory quarantine in June. I can’t decide if I should go ahead and cancel my July 25 trip now and go to somewhere that wants my money or hold out one more month.

KeaauFlyer

Seeing that your trip is in late July, I'd suggest waiting a while longer. A lot could change between now and then, and this governor is not known for being tough or tenacious, having backed off on a number of issues. And it's not that we don't want your money; it's just that in our culture we value the lives of our kupuna (elders) more.