Oct 8, 2020, 2:27 pm
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When will Hawaii re-open for tourism?
May 8, 2020 | 12:37 pm
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May 8, 2020 | 4:36 pm
#77
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They are doubling down on persuading folks not to show up intending not to adhere to quarantine, https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ng-passengers/ There is no info yet on when it will be lifted. They are clearly prioritizing safety at the moment but at some point the economic issues may come into play.
May 10, 2020 | 9:28 am
#78
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Seems like the "intended new resident" or "homeless" will still allow you entrance https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...coming-friday/
May 10, 2020 | 11:38 am
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Seems like the "intended new resident" or "homeless" will still allow you entrance https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...coming-friday/
May 10, 2020 | 12:32 pm
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We intend to maintain residency in our Berkeley home, so that won't work. The dealbreaker for us is not being able to enjoy the outdoors of Maui. That's the whole point of being there. We would follow all of the social distancing rules to the letter, and we would rely entirely on deliveries for groceries and prepared food.
Maui wants to return to to the past, but that will take a decade at minimum to rebuild the pineapple and sugar cane fields.
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May 10, 2020 | 12:50 pm
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Its sort of a dumb rule if you ask me. Speaking with clients that own condos, they are switching from vacation rentals to long term and the demand is still high. Thats a huge change in profit for them. Much lower and possibly even in negative territory for them.
Maui wants to return to to the past, but that will take a decade at minimum to rebuild the pineapple and sugar cane fields.
Maui wants to return to to the past, but that will take a decade at minimum to rebuild the pineapple and sugar cane fields.
May 10, 2020 | 1:02 pm
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My understanding is that at Wailea Beach Villas, the condos (super-duper nice, but actually cheaper than staying at nearby hotels) are almost all rentals. Only a handful of owners make them their primary residence. I would imagine some of these folks are getting perilously close to defaulting on their mortgages.
May 10, 2020 | 3:45 pm
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Seems like the "intended new resident" or "homeless" will still allow you entrance https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...coming-friday/
May 10, 2020 | 4:13 pm
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HI can't deny "entry". It is a state not a country. What it can do is impose a quarantine requirement and that is what it has done.
May 10, 2020 | 4:15 pm
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I'm sure people would rather "quarantine" in a condo as a "new resident" than as a tourist under the watchful eye of hotel staff and be confined to their rooms for 2 weeks.
May 10, 2020 | 5:46 pm
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May 10, 2020 | 5:55 pm
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One article recently said the intended resident category is going to be removed as an option on the new form thats coming out soon. So now, when you arrive, you already either live here, or you dont.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ng-passengers/
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ng-passengers/
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May 10, 2020 | 6:16 pm
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The new categories for arriving airline passengers are expected to be those who are on vacation, a returning resident, visiting family or friends, or on business, Fuchigami said. Just as important, he said, the new form will require a departure date that shows when are they actually leaving, he said.
May 10, 2020 | 6:35 pm
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It will interesting to see if/when they differentiate residents from tourists as it relates to the 14-day quarantine. I live here much of the time and own property but still maintain my driver's license in my mainland state. Wondering if proof of property ownership would do? I imagine this stuff is still largely in the works and only time will tell.
I still think the governor is over-estimating the amount of tourist traffic once the quarantine is lifted. I arrived 3 days prior to the quarantine expecting to be accompanied by others trying to sneak in under the wire..... wow, was I wrong. The plane had 14 people on it.
I still think the governor is over-estimating the amount of tourist traffic once the quarantine is lifted. I arrived 3 days prior to the quarantine expecting to be accompanied by others trying to sneak in under the wire..... wow, was I wrong. The plane had 14 people on it.
May 10, 2020 | 6:45 pm
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Yes I dont imagine they could legally deport someone simply for lacking a return ticket, unless they showed other signs of being unwilling or unable to properly quarantine.