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Old May 14, 2020 | 4:29 pm
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bpe
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Originally Posted by dhuey
Is it really that hard to ask for ID at the point of service in a restaurant, bar, grocery/convenience store? If local, here you go. If not, sorry.
Originally Posted by HawaiiSailor
Bus drivers on Oahu have already been assaulted while trying to enforce a simple mask rule. Monitoring people under quarantine various ways is fine. Making the rest of us prove to each other that we are not would Introduce a host of issues.
What about out-of-state visitors who have already quarantined for 14 days or those exempt from quarantine (airline crews, medical staff, government workers etc...)? Besides, not everyone in Hawaii or any other state has to have a state ID. I never had a drivers licence or state ID until I was 21.

I feel that what annoys people is the constantly-changing details of the rules and enforcement along with borderline illegal/unconstitutional behavior that discriminates against people, rather than their behavior. For instance, telling people that they cannot move to Hawaii now doesn't seem legal to me (I'm no expert by any means), but anyway there are are still people who will try to, some with and some without legitimate reasons to do so now. However, removing the 'intended resident' from the form isn't going to stop those who really want to move, it's just going to confuse and potentially annoy them. As long as they behave properly and quarantine for 14 days and follow the same rules as residents and everyone else, why should it matter what their residential status is?

Last edited by bpe; May 14, 2020 at 4:41 pm Reason: Added second paragraph
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