Mar 22, 2020, 4:26 am
Last edit by: FlyinHawaiian
Comprehensive Overview, With Questions and Answers:
https://www.gohawaii.com/travel-requirements
CURRENT POLICIES
List of Hotels that are currently closed:
https://www.gohawaii.com/special-alerts-information
For interisland travel:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawaii/2041823-interisland-travel-unrestricted-starting-june-15th.html
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https://www.gohawaii.com/travel-requirements
CURRENT POLICIES
- JULY 8 - Fully vaccinated U.S. travelers flying domestically — including island residents returning home — will be allowed to bypass Hawaii’s quarantine and pre-travel restrictions, as long as they upload their vaccination records to the state’s Safe Travels website and arrive with a hard copy of their vaccinations records. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawaii/2044877-those-fully-vaccinated-anywhere-us-eligible-bypass-quarantine-july-8th-new-post.html
- JUNE 15 - Fully vaccinated travelers who received the vaccine in Hawaii are now exempt from Safe Travels
- JUNE 15 - Regardless of their vaccination status, travelers are allowed to fly between islands without having to take a COVID test or quarantine.
- AFTER JANUARY 3, 2022 The mandatory 5-day quarantine is required for all unvaccinated passengers (visitors and returning residents) arriving into the state of Hawaii.
- Additionally, operations, including peer-to-peer platforms or sharing services, may not rent vehicles to any person who is subject to a 5-day traveler quarantine order unless an exemption is granted.
- Travelers flying into Hawaii are required to register personal information into the Safe Travels application; the information will be used to aid officials in contacting travelers via phone, email, and SMS. It does *not* currently enable GPS-tracking of travelers via their mobile devices.
- Travelers are exempt from the mandatory 5-day quarantine if testing is completed no more than 72 hours before the departure time of the final leg of your flight to Hawai‘i with proof of a negative result.
- The state of Hawai‘i will ONLY accept Nucleic Acid Amplification Test (NAAT) from a certified Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendment (CLIA) lab test results from TRUSTED TESTING AND TRAVEL PARTNERS. A negative COVID-19 test result is required prior to departure to avoid quarantine in Hawai‘i.
- If results are not available by time of arrival, quarantine necessary until test results received.
- All travelers (returning residents and visitors) of all ages subject to pre-test requirement.
- Individuals are responsible for testing costs.
- Travelers (returning residents and visitors) are not able to test upon arrival in Hawaii because this is a pre-travel testing program.
- No commercial COVID-19 NAAT testing will be provided upon arrival at the airport. Travelers without the pre-test will be in quarantine.
- https://hawaiicovid19.com/travel-partners/
List of Hotels that are currently closed:
https://www.gohawaii.com/special-alerts-information
For interisland travel:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawaii/2041823-interisland-travel-unrestricted-starting-june-15th.html
//TOPIC CHECK - STAY ON TOPIC//
Aloha - as a reminder to all, FT's rules specifically state: "FlyerTalk exists for the discussion of frequent flyer programs and the related travel experience. With the exception of the few areas specifically designated for the discussion of other topics, confine your comments as closely as possible to these topic areas and to the topic of the thread and forum in which you are posting." FlyinHawaiian and I recognize that it is easy to intertwine political commentary with the policies advanced by politicians that affect travel to Hawaii. However, we ask that you keep in mind the nature of this Hawaii forum and focus your attention on the policies and their impact on travel to/from/within Hawaii. Commentary about Hawaii's politicians are off-topic, belong in the OMNI forum, and will be deleted if posted on this thread. We ask for your kokua and cooperation. If you have any questions, please let us know.
Mahalo,
slippahs, Hawaii forum co-moderator
State of Hawaii "Safe Travels" Program 5-Day Quarantine (Ends March 25, 2022)
Apr 2, 2021, 5:30 pm
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Southwest has started to implement test results pre-clearance for flights to Hawaii:
Hawaii Pre-clearance now open between terminals in OAK
Hawaii Pre-clearance now open between terminals in OAK
Apr 2, 2021, 11:43 pm
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Southwest has started to implement test results pre-clearance for flights to Hawaii:
Hawaii Pre-clearance now open between terminals in OAK
Hawaii Pre-clearance now open between terminals in OAK
Apr 2, 2021, 11:52 pm
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KOA and ITO (Big Island) are scaling back post-arrival testing
https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2021...e-scaled-back/
KOA and ITO are scaling back the post arrival test from testing 100% of all trans-pacific travelers to just 50% to save cost. Not sure how there are going to pick what flights or who gets the testing, but it comes at the same time OGG (Maui) is doing the opposite and wanting to implement a mandatory post-arrival test.
KOA and ITO are scaling back the post arrival test from testing 100% of all trans-pacific travelers to just 50% to save cost. Not sure how there are going to pick what flights or who gets the testing, but it comes at the same time OGG (Maui) is doing the opposite and wanting to implement a mandatory post-arrival test.
Apr 3, 2021, 12:08 am
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https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2021...e-scaled-back/
KOA and ITO are scaling back the post arrival test from testing 100% of all trans-pacific travelers to just 50% to save cost. Not sure how there are going to pick what flights or who gets the testing, but it comes at the same time OGG (Maui) is doing the opposite and wanting to implement a mandatory post-arrival test.
KOA and ITO are scaling back the post arrival test from testing 100% of all trans-pacific travelers to just 50% to save cost. Not sure how there are going to pick what flights or who gets the testing, but it comes at the same time OGG (Maui) is doing the opposite and wanting to implement a mandatory post-arrival test.
Apr 3, 2021, 12:33 am
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Southwest has started to implement test results pre-clearance for flights to Hawaii:
Hawaii Pre-clearance now open between terminals in OAK
Hawaii Pre-clearance now open between terminals in OAK
Is it just me or were they incredibly late to the party?
Apr 3, 2021, 2:42 am
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Apr 3, 2021, 7:12 am
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Apr 3, 2021, 7:27 pm
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Keep in mind that there isn’t yet an easy way to execute this at scale. It will come....
the government here is *very* cautious IRT Covid. As the vaccination rate here in Hawaii climbs north of 50% and a workable digital vaccine passport appears, I think you will see it. At the end of the day, fully vaccinated travelers are far lower risk than travelers who can show they were not shedding virus at one point in time.
Gov Ige built provisions for a future passport program into the current emergency order
the government here is *very* cautious IRT Covid. As the vaccination rate here in Hawaii climbs north of 50% and a workable digital vaccine passport appears, I think you will see it. At the end of the day, fully vaccinated travelers are far lower risk than travelers who can show they were not shedding virus at one point in time.
Gov Ige built provisions for a future passport program into the current emergency order
Apr 3, 2021, 10:14 pm
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Wrong, unless you have a more recent info than yesterday’s news: https://www.mauinews.com/news/local-...sport-program/
"Just days after submitting a proposal for a pilot vaccine passport program for Maui, Mayor Michael Victorino said it does not appear promising after further discussion with the governor. “It doesn’t look like he’ll approve the (vaccine) passport, but that hasn’t been confirmed,” said Mayor Victorino during a press briefing."
Apr 3, 2021, 11:55 pm
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Right now there won't be some official vaccine passport for Americans, it seems.
IATA and some other organizations will roll out competing apps. I guess they will have to partner with state health depts. to exchange data?
Biden administration said they're working on standards for data formats and such. Maybe that will be adopted and there will be a way for the vaccination centers to verify that they gave you vaccine somehow.
Obviously Hawaii isn't going to try to set up some kind of arrangement with all the other states to exchange data somehow, on its own.
IATA and some other organizations will roll out competing apps. I guess they will have to partner with state health depts. to exchange data?
Biden administration said they're working on standards for data formats and such. Maybe that will be adopted and there will be a way for the vaccination centers to verify that they gave you vaccine somehow.
Obviously Hawaii isn't going to try to set up some kind of arrangement with all the other states to exchange data somehow, on its own.
Apr 4, 2021, 12:08 am
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The idea of a vaccine passport is a complex one, at least in the digital world. I am sure there is a million people cranking out the various programs that offer the possible solution. The problems include compatibility between the programs, international recognition and acceptance, and compatibility. The US requiring one acceptable program is one thing. The world accepting that program is a seriously complex additional problem. And then the questions of everyone buying in ( see Florida's recent stupid Executive Order) and complying are and truly complicated additional problem.
Apr 4, 2021, 12:18 am
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Well especially to do it before the summer travel season.
There are of course big economic incentives for the authorities to make this work.
Israel already has one and presumably, when they do boarding checks, the agents will accept looking at those apps. I don't know if they display a QR code that they can scan. Obviously scanners for such things are already available everywhere.
The EU is making sure they have something so that residents can travel within the EU zone by summer.
But would they have some data interchange standard set up by summer so that if an American shows an app with a QR code containing some record identifier of his or her vaccination, scanners and the systems they're attached to will read it and be able to verify?
They used to just take Yellow Fever cards at airports so maybe they're too preoccupied with preventing fraud or counterfeit vaccine records.
There are of course big economic incentives for the authorities to make this work.
Israel already has one and presumably, when they do boarding checks, the agents will accept looking at those apps. I don't know if they display a QR code that they can scan. Obviously scanners for such things are already available everywhere.
The EU is making sure they have something so that residents can travel within the EU zone by summer.
But would they have some data interchange standard set up by summer so that if an American shows an app with a QR code containing some record identifier of his or her vaccination, scanners and the systems they're attached to will read it and be able to verify?
They used to just take Yellow Fever cards at airports so maybe they're too preoccupied with preventing fraud or counterfeit vaccine records.
Apr 4, 2021, 6:38 am
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Ige's Issues
Ige and others in state government say it's tough to grant quarantine exemptions to the vaccinated because the CDC vaccine cards can be easily forged, names used on the cards don't necessarily align to the same name on a legal ID, and not every vaccine was processed through VAMS in the U.S.. And that's also setting aside legal concerns.
Green says people won't commit fraud and produce a faked vaccine card due to fear of fines/jail time.
I suppose he's right, after all, how many people forge test results to gain entry into the state? Based on the tests results I've had from Hawaii-approved vendors, I could probably create a fake test result document in Notepad or Microsoft Word if I wanted to.
Perhaps an assumption will be made that most are vaccinated...or at least most of the most vulnerable are and/or herd immunity is achieved...and the testing/quarantine programs will fade away without the need for a vaccine passport.
Green says people won't commit fraud and produce a faked vaccine card due to fear of fines/jail time.
I suppose he's right, after all, how many people forge test results to gain entry into the state? Based on the tests results I've had from Hawaii-approved vendors, I could probably create a fake test result document in Notepad or Microsoft Word if I wanted to.
Perhaps an assumption will be made that most are vaccinated...or at least most of the most vulnerable are and/or herd immunity is achieved...and the testing/quarantine programs will fade away without the need for a vaccine passport.
Apr 4, 2021, 3:36 pm
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Vaccine transports for travel within the US, including HI and AS, are going to be temporary measure at best. By fall we should have high percentage of vaccinations so for the large majority of Americans coming to HI this year will be vaccinated by August or Oct by the latest.
So it would be used for 6 months for the bulk of those coming.
they may need to maintain it beyond that for people who refused vaccination but that should be a minority by late summer.
So it would be used for 6 months for the bulk of those coming.
they may need to maintain it beyond that for people who refused vaccination but that should be a minority by late summer.