Nov 3, 2023, 9:29 am
Last edit by: FlyinHawaiian
HA's official web page on the lie flats
24 aircraft converted: N360HA, N361HA, N370HA, N373HA, N374HA, N375HA, N378HA, N379HA, N380HA, N381HA, N382HA, N383HA, N384HA, N385HA, N386HA, N388HA, N389HA, N390HA, N391HA, N392HA, N393HA, N395HA, N396HA, N399HA
24 aircraft converted: N360HA, N361HA, N370HA, N373HA, N374HA, N375HA, N378HA, N379HA, N380HA, N381HA, N382HA, N383HA, N384HA, N385HA, N386HA, N388HA, N389HA, N390HA, N391HA, N392HA, N393HA, N395HA, N396HA, N399HA
Consolidated "Hawaiian Airlines A330" thread
Jan 21, 2017, 8:21 am
#691
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,576
The new A330 seatmap has been added to SeatGuru.
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ha...330-200_V2.php
I'm a bit confused about row 11 - for AB and HJ, it says "Standard & Bulkhead". Yet in the AB/HJ descriptions it says "This seat has extra legroom due to the lack of bulkhead between Business and Economy."
Also, for CDEG, it just says "Standard" implying no bulkhead. Is this really the case?
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ha...330-200_V2.php
I'm a bit confused about row 11 - for AB and HJ, it says "Standard & Bulkhead". Yet in the AB/HJ descriptions it says "This seat has extra legroom due to the lack of bulkhead between Business and Economy."
Also, for CDEG, it just says "Standard" implying no bulkhead. Is this really the case?
Feb 15, 2017, 8:53 pm
#692
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 4
Lie flat SFO - HNL
I don't believe they're promising the new seats on any west coast routes yet, but you can get an idea of what they think they're going to be flying by looking at the seat map. Old configuration has three rows of coach in the mini cabin behind first class. New has one row by the windows and two in the center section.
Feb 15, 2017, 9:09 pm
#693
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVPG; Bonvoy Silver; OneWorld Sapphire; Miss Traveling for Work
Posts: 247
Unfortunately, they haven't promised anything west coast at all AFAIK, just speculation and hope and crunching long routes versus # of planes. Any flat beds will be a "delighter" rather than a promise. I believe United is running some of their 777s out of SFO with the new flatbeds.
Feb 15, 2017, 9:17 pm
#694
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 4
Unfortunately, they haven't promised anything west coast at all AFAIK, just speculation and hope and crunching long routes versus # of planes. Any flat beds will be a "delighter" rather than a promise. I believe United is running some of their 777s out of SFO with the new flatbeds.
Thanks very much for the reply and suggestion for checking out UA, we will take a look for the 777.
Feb 15, 2017, 10:32 pm
#695
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Honolulu, Hawaiʻi [+MKK4 EBBER R577 EDSEL R577 ELKEY EXERT]
Posts: 15,826
Unfortunately, they haven't promised anything west coast at all AFAIK, just speculation and hope and crunching long routes versus # of planes. Any flat beds will be a "delighter" rather than a promise. I believe United is running some of their 777s out of SFO with the new flatbeds.
Feb 15, 2017, 11:08 pm
#696
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,145
Trying to get a handle on the new Hawaiian lie flat seats for a flight in December SFO to HNL...so if I find that the seat map has the single row by the window and two in the center behind 1st class is this the best confidence for selecting a lie flat? When I spoke with customer service (3 different times), they couldn't say for sure (or wouldn't promise anything). My wife has sciatica and really needs this option (pretty much a deal breaker without it). Any additional insight is very much appreciated, thanks!
Hope your wife and you have a great trip to Hawaii!
Feb 15, 2017, 11:11 pm
#697
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 4
Thanks!^
Thanks very much for the tip on UA 777
Unfortunately, they haven't promised anything west coast at all AFAIK, just speculation and hope and crunching long routes versus # of planes. Any flat beds will be a "delighter" rather than a promise. I believe United is running some of their 777s out of SFO with the new flatbeds.
Last edited by FlyinHawaiian; Feb 22, 2017 at 4:57 am Reason: consecutive posts merged
Feb 15, 2017, 11:15 pm
#698
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,145
Feb 16, 2017, 10:20 am
#700
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Francisco
Programs: GM on VX, UA, AA, HA, AS, SY; Budget Fastbreak
Posts: 27,620
We are on SFO-OGG and it's the new lie-flat configuration. Omg so amazing.
Will the OGG-SFO flight have the same configuration?
Most important will any SFO/OGG flights have the old configuration? I just don't want to go back to the old configuration unless required. But of course the HA F experience is always a joy.
Will the OGG-SFO flight have the same configuration?
Most important will any SFO/OGG flights have the old configuration? I just don't want to go back to the old configuration unless required. But of course the HA F experience is always a joy.
Feb 16, 2017, 11:15 am
#701
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,576
We are on SFO-OGG and it's the new lie-flat configuration. Omg so amazing.
Will the OGG-SFO flight have the same configuration?
Most important will any SFO/OGG flights have the old configuration? I just don't want to go back to the old configuration unless required. But of course the HA F experience is always a joy.
Will the OGG-SFO flight have the same configuration?
Most important will any SFO/OGG flights have the old configuration? I just don't want to go back to the old configuration unless required. But of course the HA F experience is always a joy.
Feb 16, 2017, 11:21 am
#702
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,576
Trying to get a handle on the new Hawaiian lie flat seats for a flight in December SFO to HNL...so if I find that the seat map has the single row by the window and two in the center behind 1st class is this the best confidence for selecting a lie flat? When I spoke with customer service (3 different times), they couldn't say for sure (or wouldn't promise anything). My wife has sciatica and really needs this option (pretty much a deal breaker without it). Any additional insight is very much appreciated, thanks!
Yes, your analyzation of the seat map on the website is correct. If you look at an international city with the lie flat seats, you'll see the ExtraComfort section as you describe. Searching a domestic city and seeing the "old" F seats, but the new ExtraComfort configuration, is a very good indication your flight will see the new seats. This allows flexibility, just in case a last minute equipment swap takes place, the ExtraComfort section isn't overbooked.
FYI - Auckland, Brisbane, Sydney, Tokyo-Narita and JFK (this week) are now seeing the lie flat seats on a dedicated basis. Osaka and both Tokyo-Haneda flights will see the new seats by the end of May. Due to aircraft routing, PDX, OGG/HNL-SFO, LAX-OGG and on some HNL-LAX-HNL flights, often see the new seats, with more to follow as the fleet grows.
Hope that helps! Enjoy Hawaii.
Last edited by azj; Feb 16, 2017 at 11:35 am
Feb 22, 2017, 6:47 pm
#703
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Sacramento
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, HH Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 1,341
Anybody have info on the 767 retirement schedule? Just wondering if there's a SCIH we'll get the A330 mid October SMF-HNL.
Feb 22, 2017, 6:57 pm
#704
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 1,580
TPG has a JFK review of the new seats up:
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/02/haw...-first-review/
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/02/haw...-first-review/
Feb 23, 2017, 12:32 am
#705
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,576
All 767s will be retired by the end of 2018. Next retirement is at the end of 2017. I'd guess there's some flexibility built into this plan, given the fact that HAL owns 4 of the remaining 8 767s and the initial delays to the 321neo arrival. As for SMF seeing the 330? I wouldn't hold your breath. SMF I'm guessing is a ripe candidate for the 321neo with flights to HNL and OGG.