New and cancelled destinations, major schedule and operational changes
Feb 26, 2020, 12:38 pm
#1576
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Feb 26, 2020, 1:17 pm
#1577
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
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I hope these tricks will help AY to survive.
Feb 26, 2020, 1:24 pm
#1578
Join Date: Sep 2005
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I wonder if we could hope for a year-round MIA or a DFW flight in the wake of all this.
Feb 26, 2020, 1:27 pm
#1579
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But yes, a year round MIA or ORD would be nice.
Feb 26, 2020, 1:29 pm
#1580
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And this is only starting now, who knows when US - Europe will start seeing major cuts. It really seems to be more ”when” than ”if” at the moment.
Hopefully AY will get some extra cash flow in with these added flights until it’s too late.
Feb 26, 2020, 8:39 pm
#1581
Join Date: Dec 2013
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I’d say very unlikely, air travel as a whole will most likely take a very deep decline over the coming 6-12 months. Comparable to 911, if not worse.
And this is only starting now, who knows when US - Europe will start seeing major cuts. It really seems to be more ”when” than ”if” at the moment.
Hopefully AY will get some extra cash flow in with these added flights until it’s too late.
And this is only starting now, who knows when US - Europe will start seeing major cuts. It really seems to be more ”when” than ”if” at the moment.
Hopefully AY will get some extra cash flow in with these added flights until it’s too late.
Mar 3, 2020, 10:35 am
#1583
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This is what AY needs to do, it’s totally desperate but better than nothing. Adding capacity now and most likely cancelling in 1-2 months...but hopefully some short term cash flow in before that..
Mar 3, 2020, 11:02 am
#1584
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Location: HEL
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Europe-LA was selling for nothing last winter, due to over-capacity - I saw HEL-LAX-HEL at 240€ (from AF/KL) - and maybe legacies trying to kill off Norwegian. Not sure adding extra capacity again is not going to make things worse rather than better, if it's operated at a loss.
Mar 3, 2020, 11:50 am
#1587
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Year 2020 is not going to be the year airlines open much new routes. This will be the year of survival, unfortunately. Those who stay afloat can hopefully start recovering in 21/22.
IATA’s early estimate of 30 Billion USD impact on the industry is long gone, it will much, much more than that.
IATA’s early estimate of 30 Billion USD impact on the industry is long gone, it will much, much more than that.
Mar 3, 2020, 11:55 am
#1588
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This is not impossible as a seasonal.
But I don't think there's any hope of AY opening new destinations because of the current excess in planes. A new AY destination requires so much background work before they annoounce it. New frequencies on old routes is a lot easier.
But I don't think there's any hope of AY opening new destinations because of the current excess in planes. A new AY destination requires so much background work before they annoounce it. New frequencies on old routes is a lot easier.
Mar 3, 2020, 12:04 pm
#1589
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