Last edit by: LoganFlyer
According to EF, these are the MCTs for MSP:
For DL-DL connections:
D-D: 30 minutes
D-I: 35 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 15 minutes (30 minutes if coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, 1 hour if coming from a Canadian airport without preclearance)
I-I: 1 hour 15 minutes (35 minutes if coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, 1 hour if coming from a Canadian airport without preclearance)
Generic online and offline connection times:
D-D: 40 minutes
D-I: 40 minutes
I-D: 1 hour
I-I: 1 hour
Between DL and another carrier: 3 hours 30 minutes
For DL-DL connections:
D-D: 30 minutes
D-I: 35 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 15 minutes (30 minutes if coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, 1 hour if coming from a Canadian airport without preclearance)
I-I: 1 hour 15 minutes (35 minutes if coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, 1 hour if coming from a Canadian airport without preclearance)
Generic online and offline connection times:
D-D: 40 minutes
D-I: 40 minutes
I-D: 1 hour
I-I: 1 hour
Between DL and another carrier: 3 hours 30 minutes
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP): The Definitive Thread
#871
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Good news is plane looks decently empty, C+ cleared despite being within T-5 (flight leaves Tuesday), bad news I booked after the PM window so I missed the early F upgrade (went from F=8 to F=4 on the longer MSP - SJC) but still a chance on both flights (and I won't be checking a bag). I could live with the SFO re-route except there aren't any SFO options ex-MSP at that hour
#872
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Did a quick search, but looking for a more definitive answer. Flying DL One HND-MSP in early October. Will be booking a separate ticket (also on DL) MSP-CHI (either ORD or MDW; no preference). The flight from HND lands at 12:28pm, and then there are flights to MDW and ORD at 1:05pm and 1:10pm; respectively. I’ll have a carry-on only, and am a GE member.
If I book one of the two flights above, but miss it due to a delay on the leg from HND, will DL move me to a later flight at no-cost? I realize that the two tickets won’t be linked/connected by PNR.
If that’s too risky, I can book a flight three hours later— and hopefully standby for the earlier flight if I make it in time. But in order to do SDC/standby, I understand that I need to purchase a first class ticket, right (no DL status)?
Just trying to find the best way to make it back to Chicago without a three hour layover (especially since there are no showers in MSP). Thanks all for your help!
If I book one of the two flights above, but miss it due to a delay on the leg from HND, will DL move me to a later flight at no-cost? I realize that the two tickets won’t be linked/connected by PNR.
If that’s too risky, I can book a flight three hours later— and hopefully standby for the earlier flight if I make it in time. But in order to do SDC/standby, I understand that I need to purchase a first class ticket, right (no DL status)?
Just trying to find the best way to make it back to Chicago without a three hour layover (especially since there are no showers in MSP). Thanks all for your help!
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By all accounts they'll protect you across two reservations just as if it was a single one -- fortunately I have not had to discover this firsthand yet -- BUT I doubt they will do so if your "connection" violates MCT, as yours would.
You don't need an F/J ticket to do SDC/standby, just that for FO or no status there is a $75 fee (regardless of cabin, but only charged if successful). However, especially if you do it at the gate there's some chance they won't bother collecting it.
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Did a quick search, but looking for a more definitive answer. Flying DL One HND-MSP in early October. Will be booking a separate ticket (also on DL) MSP-CHI (either ORD or MDW; no preference). The flight from HND lands at 12:28pm, and then there are flights to MDW and ORD at 1:05pm and 1:10pm; respectively. I’ll have a carry-on only, and am a GE member.
If I book one of the two flights above, but miss it due to a delay on the leg from HND, will DL move me to a later flight at no-cost? I realize that the two tickets won’t be linked/connected by PNR.
If that’s too risky, I can book a flight three hours later— and hopefully standby for the earlier flight if I make it in time. But in order to do SDC/standby, I understand that I need to purchase a first class ticket, right (no DL status)?
Just trying to find the best way to make it back to Chicago without a three hour layover (especially since there are no showers in MSP). Thanks all for your help!
If I book one of the two flights above, but miss it due to a delay on the leg from HND, will DL move me to a later flight at no-cost? I realize that the two tickets won’t be linked/connected by PNR.
If that’s too risky, I can book a flight three hours later— and hopefully standby for the earlier flight if I make it in time. But in order to do SDC/standby, I understand that I need to purchase a first class ticket, right (no DL status)?
Just trying to find the best way to make it back to Chicago without a three hour layover (especially since there are no showers in MSP). Thanks all for your help!
The HND flight arrives around the same time as some DL nonstops from Europe. Last month I had a long wait for the CBP machines after deplaning from the HND flight in D1 and then more lines, so it took a shockingly long time (for MSP) to exit the airport.
Moreover it can be a pretty long walk from the aircraft through immigration and customs and then through TSA security and into the airside portion of the terminal. [I'm not sure if there's PreCheck after exiting customs or if you need to go down to baggage claim and back up through the South or North checkpoints, which do have CLEAR also.] Even if you arrive on time, I think the chances of making a domestic departure in about forty minutes would be slight at best, although I don;t know what gates currently tend to be used for the ORD and MDW flights at MSP. [Long ago, the PMNW fast trsck (shuttle) flights to ORD always left from G6-G8, while incoming international DL flights that aren't preclearance tend to use G1-G6. I've had MDW leave from high F as well as middle C gates, depending somewhat on aircraft type.]
Moreover it can be a pretty long walk from the aircraft through immigration and customs and then through TSA security and into the airside portion of the terminal. [I'm not sure if there's PreCheck after exiting customs or if you need to go down to baggage claim and back up through the South or North checkpoints, which do have CLEAR also.] Even if you arrive on time, I think the chances of making a domestic departure in about forty minutes would be slight at best, although I don;t know what gates currently tend to be used for the ORD and MDW flights at MSP. [Long ago, the PMNW fast trsck (shuttle) flights to ORD always left from G6-G8, while incoming international DL flights that aren't preclearance tend to use G1-G6. I've had MDW leave from high F as well as middle C gates, depending somewhat on aircraft type.]
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DL protects across tickets, but by policy only if MCT as if booked as one is met. They'd likely help, but there's nothing requiring they help. MSP/CHI is popular route, thus increased chance of later flights being full. I just dont think this is a realistic connection.
#876
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To reinforce what has already been stated:
Those proposed connection times are quite unrealistic. As MSPeconomist pointed out, that is a busy arrival time at MSP. The current scheduled midday arrival times from CDG, AMS, and HND are 12:14, 12:35, and 12:39. The TSA checkpoint for connecting passengers from Immigration & Customs has neither PreCheck nor CLEAR. The alternative to go back out through baggage claim and up to the TSA checkpoints on the ticketing level is long, with no assurances about the wait times, even for PreCheck.
Those proposed connection times are quite unrealistic. As MSPeconomist pointed out, that is a busy arrival time at MSP. The current scheduled midday arrival times from CDG, AMS, and HND are 12:14, 12:35, and 12:39. The TSA checkpoint for connecting passengers from Immigration & Customs has neither PreCheck nor CLEAR. The alternative to go back out through baggage claim and up to the TSA checkpoints on the ticketing level is long, with no assurances about the wait times, even for PreCheck.
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DL I-D at MSP seems to be an hour and fifteen minutes. I don't think there's an I-D MCT anywhere that would be under forty-five minutes, and I can't even think of one under 1:15 without checking a couple unlikely possibilities.
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Schedule change
Hello. I am a wheelchair dependent non-status pax who was recently notified of an itinerary change which changed my D-D connection time to 39 mins.
I would therefore like to cancel this itinerary and am wondering if this invol schedule change would qualify as a valid reason for full refund. This is a BE itinerary. Any suggestions? Thanks
I would therefore like to cancel this itinerary and am wondering if this invol schedule change would qualify as a valid reason for full refund. This is a BE itinerary. Any suggestions? Thanks
#884
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Original itinerary had connection time in MSP of 69 mins. Rescheduled itinerary has connection time reduced to 39 mins. Using a wheelchair attendant and usually deplaning last, I am concerned about missing the onward connection.
Actually, I am really looking to cancel the entire reservation and having miles returned to my account. Do I have a chance to achieve this?
Thanks to both replies.
Actually, I am really looking to cancel the entire reservation and having miles returned to my account. Do I have a chance to achieve this?
Thanks to both replies.
#885
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Original itinerary had connection time in MSP of 69 mins. Rescheduled itinerary has connection time reduced to 39 mins. Using a wheelchair attendant and usually deplaning last, I am concerned about missing the onward connection.
Actually, I am really looking to cancel the entire reservation and having miles returned to my account. Do I have a chance to achieve this?
Thanks to both replies.
Actually, I am really looking to cancel the entire reservation and having miles returned to my account. Do I have a chance to achieve this?
Thanks to both replies.
Can't hurt to ask, though - worst they can say is no.