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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by ElmhurstNick
So it looks like I start out with 3500 MQD as a lowly Silver - the 2500 initial one-time boost, and 1000 from rolling over my excess 20k MQM (I'm ending 2023 with 45k MQM).
It looks like they changed the rollover MQM conversion rate, the fine prints says: "If MQDs are selected, the Rollover MQM balance will be converted at a ratio of 1 MQD per 10 MQMs."
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by johnkel1
No mention of personal Platinum American Express adjusted lounge access. Assume that means we are limited to 6 visits a year, which is a total joke.
it goes to 10 per year.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by skislc
Wow. So you can outright buy silver for $800 (and get two BOGO's and 15 SC visits in the process).

If that holds, I can definitely hit PM on an annual basis, which I think would have been a stretch for me in the pre-covid era.
What a joke. Get the DL Amex Platinum and DL Amex Business Platinum and on Jan 1 you earn Silver without leaving your bed to spend or fly for just $500. Plus 2 companion certs and some SC visits.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:25 pm
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Disgusting. Just like most people expected, they went very deep only to go back a little bit
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Uncle Lars
I wonder...if I extend my Diamond status for another year, will I get Choice Benefits without "earning" them...details,details....
Probably not. Like what happened with rollover DMs
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by DeltaFan4Now
As I mention in my question this is an important point. Which year is being matched...
Originally Posted by shoodawg
your 2024 status. Earn it this year. Fast.
sadly, thats not going to happen

A slight variation on this question is if we reach diamond within 2024 it is technically our status at the end of the year, correct? Thus could we roll those MQMs over at the end of 2024 [MENTION=2]100K[/MENTION]/year with status earned in 2024?
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:26 pm
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My biggest issue was, as I have called it repeatedly, including in the letter I sent Ed Bastian, the punitive devaluation of rollover MQM. I expected Delta to do something about rollover MQM at some point, but in my case they were taking away enough MQM for two years of Platinum and not even giving me enough for Gold, that was a complete joke. On top of that I now get Gold every year after that as a lowly 1MM, I can live with the changes. The main question for me is whether I keep my Delta Reserve or only my AMEX Platinum, I may go AMEX Platinum and just not worry about Delta except when it's clearly the best option over AA.

Originally Posted by phongn
Isn't the difference that with AA you don't have to use their booking portal for Hyatt and Marriott (and thus could access hotel status and use corporate travel agents and booking sites) and with Delta you had to use their portal, waiving all the goodies?
Yes, the comparison of how you earned status qualification for car rentals and hotels was completely different between AA and DL, basically any miles you earn on AA with a few limited exceptions count towards status, Delta tried to copy but really restricted the mechanism. I'm actually surprised they walked back that change, seems like it should have still been lucrative for them.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by WyomingBound
Here is another quote from their page.....in very small letters.......no more MQD on hotel stays or car rentals.

"Given the latest changes, including the newly reduced MQD thresholds, MQDs will not be offered for Delta Car Rentals and Delta Stays bookings."
I never saw a benefit to renting cars or hotels thru DL. Rates always seem to be much better using conventional booking methods.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by johnkel1
No mention of personal Platinum American Express adjusted lounge access. Assume that means we are limited to 6 visits a year, which is a total joke.
No they increased it to 10 visits.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelLAX
It looks like they changed the rollover MQM conversion rate, the fine prints says: "If MQDs are selected, the Rollover MQM balance will be converted at a ratio of 1 MQD per 10 MQMs."
If that's the case, they are basically giving me 2 years of Silver for my 45000 2023 MQM. At that point, the 10 day visit limit on my Amex Plat isn't a big deal, I probably am only taking 4-5 RT a year on Delta anyway from 2025 onward as I still have a big AA/BA balance to keep redeeming.

That's a reasonable separation package for my situation.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:30 pm
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do we really think the $2,500 "head start" is going to last beyond a year or two?

either way, it's further proof that all delta cares about is having the cobrand card, not actually flying

the mm enhancement seemed like a shiny carrot at first, but once that wore off I'm overall unimpressed with these rollbacks

perhaps if delta had not already wasted all of their trust and credibility, I could see these changes as something more than attempting to stop the bleeding while still moving towards the same target, albeit a bit slower, but they have earned getting no benefit of the doubt from me
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Adelphos
No - I am somewhat surprised as well. However, at 10:1 spending and with lower earnings thresholds, I do think that Reserve spending in particular will be more attractive to more people (including me).
The 10:1 ratio is in the ballpark of AAs program of course AA counts spend on any AA card whereas of course you need the Reserve to get that ratio on DL.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by BostonGuy
Annual complimentary Gold is a big deal for this 1 MM.

They could always take away more benefits, but this is encouraging.
We can keep our fingers crossed but, like any benefit, they can always take it away. After all, it is "annual complimentary."

This could go away a year from now, just as the disingenuous promise of lifetime club membership for Flying Colonels went away.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:31 pm
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In summary, I am happy to see this as a new 2MM with 100K extra MQMs. I have to confess, though, with this walkback I do feel a little bit of the "if everyone is elite, nobody is", as I suspect I'm not the only moderate-value former mileage runner who will be boosted for another couple of years, and it's been many flights since I've sat in front as a Diamond! Well, the game continues for a little while longer.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter
I never saw a benefit to renting cars or hotels thru DL. Rates always seem to be much better using conventional booking methods.
It would have been useful in a pickle to book a $1,000 boutique or luxury hotel stay or something to get an extra MQD boost towards a status goal. I am actually disappointed this is no longer an option.
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