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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Spent_All_My_Miles
Regarding the question of whether extended DMs/PMs will get gift choices, did DMs/PMs who were extended during the pandemic get them? (I had dropped to Gold right before the pandemic, so I didn't have experience with this).
Whichever way, that might be a precedent.
Pandemic extended PM/DM did not receive choice benefits for the 2022 status year (earned from flying in 2021).
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by DrMilano
Pandemic extended PM/DM did not receive choice benefits for the 2022 status year (earned from flying in 2021).
I also believe "earned DM" was higher on the upgrade list than "extended DM".
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by dw
Currently unclear in the T&Cs as type isnt a defined term
I agree this is vague, but if Delta defines types the same way American Express does, then personal and business are two different types:

https://www.americanexpress.com/en-u...-credit-cards/
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by shoodawg
everyones elite = everyone has a shot
few are elite = most dont.
why piss off millions and millions and millions.
True
All they needed to do was remove segments this year then remove the card waiver next year and then message the rollover crowd slowly
They screwed up big time and made the frogs, er, people realize that the water was suddenly boiling !

This does NOTHING to engender loyalty to Amex; their original goal / plan!
It takes 3-4c spend to get 1 MQM now with the Reserve, as I have calculated
They could have continued that aspect with mild devaluation with 1:5 spend on Reserve and 1:10 spend on the Platinum as a new benefit
or
Made the MQDs count as miles for lifetime along with flying etc etc
or
just kept 1MM Silver 2 GM, 3 PM, 4 DM and 6 360 and given more incentive using spend to get there!

It is a good thing for most folk that people like us who know how to game the system are not in charge of the programs
We know how to stop the easy leaks
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by DrMilano
Pandemic extended PM/DM did not receive choice benefits for the 2022 status year (earned from flying in 2021).
I was also thinking that, however, to extend from the pandemic, you didnt have to do anything. You didnt have to choose option A or B, it was just a gift. Not too smart of a gift on Deltas part, I think, at least past 2020. But in the newest scenario, you are sacrificing miles or MQDs to take this option, so you are actively choosing to do something. Dont know if that matters.

Wish I could get a definitive answer to this soon, so I can decide whether to put my property taxes on my Reserve card to get another MQM boost.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Ryno1234
im in a similar situation: after the 125K is deducted, i will have 351,000 roll overs. That's 3 years of Diamond extension. HOWEVER: i will also it the $28,000/year for Diamond pretty easily, so will i be "double qualifying" for 3 years and wasting those 3 years of the $28k? Just curious.
If you know for certain that you'll make DM naturally for those same 3 years, convert your 351K MQM to RDM's instead of wasting them on the extended status.

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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by BostonGuy
Annual complimentary Gold is a big deal for this 1 MM.

They could always take away more benefits, but this is encouraging.
Out of MAIN 1 and into SKY when boarding the back of the bus, It's just more relaxing!
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:39 pm
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I have a weird feeling that the annual complementary platinum and diamond status coming out of million miler status is going to be the light version; without choice benefits
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 9:48 pm
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Beginning January 1, 2024, SkyMiles Members can earn MQDs on Delta Award Travel tickets operated by Delta partners, in Main Cabin (or equivalent) or above, when booked through any direct Delta channel, with MQDs calculated based on miles redeemed toward the Award Ticket price divided by 100. Government-imposed taxes and fees do not earn MQDs.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 10:02 pm
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I 100% agree. I am astounded by this counterswing of the pendulum. There will be a ton of EOY 23 Diamonds (including myself) who have hundreds of thousands of MQMs squirreled away and who will choose the option of status extension for anywhere fro 1-10 years. And in an effort to goose the Amex spending there will be a horde of new platinums that are sticking around for years.

This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 10:11 pm
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
The 3 choices to rollover MQMs are really two choices. I'll have about 500,000 MQM at the end of the year. That could get me:
1. 5 years of Diamond
2. 250,000 RDM
3. 25,000 MQD -> this is pointless in light of option 1.
Except presumably if you re-qualify through status extension alone you will not get the Medallion Choice benefits.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 10:19 pm
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Originally Posted by edrags2
I 100% agree. I am astounded by this counterswing of the pendulum. There will be a ton of EOY 23 Diamonds (including myself) who have hundreds of thousands of MQMs squirreled away and who will choose the option of status extension for anywhere fro 1-10 years. And in an effort to goose the Amex spending there will be a horde of new platinums that are sticking around for years.

This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with
I do think that people like you are a fairly small percentage/number of Delta flyers; youre just over-represented on FT. The pandemic rollover medallion boosts for most people would have run out somewhere around 2025-26.

However people like you are actual high value flyers and not high value flyers, and given how generous the program revisions were in part at the pointy end of the elite curve, I suspect that Delta got some really brutal blowback from genuinely high value flyers and felt like they had to overcompensate like they did to suddenly not lose that high value flyer pool that they discovered theyd been taking for granted as they developed the new SkySpend program.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 10:49 pm
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I'm sitting at about 750,000 lifetime miles. I've always thought that "lifetime Silver Medallion" was a big "meh" as a reward for achieving million miler status, and hence have never been motivated to attain it. Now that one million miles will yield lifetime Gold status, I am suddenly much more interested. A million miles is still a few years away (especially since it will be based only on miles flown, not on MQMs), but will definitely be achievable by age 60, which should give me a decade or two to enjoy it before I'll probably need to dial back the travel.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by ND76
Breeze, Avelo and Allegiant just lost a prospective new customer and unless the Big D starts flying again from CAK, I won't fly from there.

Thank you, Delta.
This post is likely exactly the thing they want to hear.

This is proof that actual customer response, not just venting and ranting (though that's not totally unhealthy for a bit!), can get results. We all need to remember this if UA and AA try this junk!
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 11:03 pm
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Originally Posted by DrMilano
Exactly. DM ranks doubled during the pandemic and a majority of current DMs are swimming in hundreds of thousands of rollover MQMs that the bloated high tier ranks will march on to 2025 and onward towards 2030. Only saving grace is MM status will be the third tie breaker for upgrades in 2024, thats if there are any upgradable seats available once FCM is turbo charged.
Originally Posted by edrags2
I 100% agree. I am astounded by this counterswing of the pendulum. There will be a ton of EOY 23 Diamonds (including myself) who have hundreds of thousands of MQMs squirreled away and who will choose the option of status extension for anywhere fro 1-10 years. And in an effort to goose the Amex spending there will be a horde of new platinums that are sticking around for years.

This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with
It is, frankly, insane that they are allowing people to extend DM status for 100k MQMs/year. That's both fewer MQMs than you would have needed to "use" per year to keep DM under the only system and doesn't have the substantial spend requirement that you needed to keep DM, even using rollover MQMs. It makes zero chance. Their stated goal was to thin the top ranks, but there are likely to be many more people able to keep DM for several years under the new system than under the old.
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