Delta Announcing Changes to Status Qualification
#211




Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: On the run
Programs: DL 2MM/DM, Hilton LT Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriot Titanium
Posts: 1,274
Regarding the question of whether extended DMs/PMs will get gift choices, did DMs/PMs who were extended during the pandemic get them? (I had dropped to Gold right before the pandemic, so I didn't have experience with this).
Whichever way, that might be a precedent.
Whichever way, that might be a precedent.
#212



Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Flower Mound, TX
Programs: Delta Gold, United Silver, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,060
#213




Join Date: May 2010
Location: Kanasas City
Programs: DL DM, 2 MM; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 434
I agree this is vague, but if Delta defines types the same way American Express does, then personal and business are two different types:
https://www.americanexpress.com/en-u...-credit-cards/
https://www.americanexpress.com/en-u...-credit-cards/
#214




Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: AA EXP2M, DL 1MM DM ext, UA PP <=> HH G/Marr PE/Hyatt G/IHG P FT RA ( Recovering Addict)
Posts: 4,903
All they needed to do was remove segments this year then remove the card waiver next year and then message the rollover crowd slowly
They screwed up big time and made the frogs, er, people realize that the water was suddenly boiling !
This does NOTHING to engender loyalty to Amex; their original goal / plan!
It takes 3-4c spend to get 1 MQM now with the Reserve, as I have calculated
They could have continued that aspect with mild devaluation with 1:5 spend on Reserve and 1:10 spend on the Platinum as a new benefit
or
Made the MQDs count as miles for lifetime along with flying etc etc
or
just kept 1MM Silver 2 GM, 3 PM, 4 DM and 6 360 and given more incentive using spend to get there!
It is a good thing for most folk that people like us who know how to game the system are not in charge of the programs
We know how to stop the easy leaks
#215




Join Date: Sep 2023
Posts: 204
Wish I could get a definitive answer to this soon, so I can decide whether to put my property taxes on my Reserve card to get another MQM boost.
#216




Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC, NJ, Long Island
Programs: DL DM, 1.6MM, UA Silver, NEXUS, SkyClub & AdmiralsClub Lifetime, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 6,652
im in a similar situation: after the 125K is deducted, i will have 351,000 roll overs. That's 3 years of Diamond extension. HOWEVER: i will also it the $28,000/year for Diamond pretty easily, so will i be "double qualifying" for 3 years and wasting those 3 years of the $28k? Just curious.
Last edited by SuperG1955; Oct 18, 2023 at 9:42 pm Reason: spelling
#217




Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MCO
Programs: DL 1.5MM, Marriott LT Plat, HH Gold, AVIS PPlus
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#218




Join Date: May 2010
Location: Kanasas City
Programs: DL DM, 2 MM; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 434
I have a weird feeling that the annual complementary platinum and diamond status coming out of million miler status is going to be the light version; without choice benefits
#219




Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: South Bay LA
Programs: DL FO, AA PP
Posts: 1,259
As seen on reddit
Beginning January 1, 2024, SkyMiles Members can earn MQDs on Delta Award Travel tickets operated by Delta partners, in Main Cabin (or equivalent) or above, when booked through any direct Delta channel, with MQDs calculated based on miles redeemed toward the Award Ticket price divided by 100. Government-imposed taxes and fees do not earn MQDs.
Beginning January 1, 2024, SkyMiles Members can earn MQDs on Delta Award Travel tickets operated by Delta partners, in Main Cabin (or equivalent) or above, when booked through any direct Delta channel, with MQDs calculated based on miles redeemed toward the Award Ticket price divided by 100. Government-imposed taxes and fees do not earn MQDs.
#220
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 18
I 100% agree. I am astounded by this counterswing of the pendulum. There will be a ton of EOY 23 Diamonds (including myself) who have hundreds of thousands of MQMs squirreled away and who will choose the option of status extension for anywhere fro 1-10 years. And in an effort to goose the Amex spending there will be a horde of new platinums that are sticking around for years.
This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with
This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with
#221
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 18
Except presumably if you re-qualify through status extension alone you will not get the Medallion Choice benefits.
#222



Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: VPS
Programs: IHG Platinum, Delta SM, Atmos Silver, Hilton Gold, Accor Gold, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 8,168
I 100% agree. I am astounded by this counterswing of the pendulum. There will be a ton of EOY 23 Diamonds (including myself) who have hundreds of thousands of MQMs squirreled away and who will choose the option of status extension for anywhere fro 1-10 years. And in an effort to goose the Amex spending there will be a horde of new platinums that are sticking around for years.
This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with
This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with
However people like you are actual high value flyers and not high value flyers, and given how generous the program revisions were in part at the pointy end of the elite curve, I suspect that Delta got some really brutal blowback from genuinely high value flyers and felt like they had to overcompensate like they did to suddenly not lose that high value flyer pool that they discovered theyd been taking for granted as they developed the new SkySpend program.
#223




Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: USA - Seattle area
Programs: DL Platinum, "alum" of high status with UA but not any more
Posts: 666
I'm sitting at about 750,000 lifetime miles. I've always thought that "lifetime Silver Medallion" was a big "meh" as a reward for achieving million miler status, and hence have never been motivated to attain it. Now that one million miles will yield lifetime Gold status, I am suddenly much more interested. A million miles is still a few years away (especially since it will be based only on miles flown, not on MQMs), but will definitely be achievable by age 60, which should give me a decade or two to enjoy it before I'll probably need to dial back the travel.
#224




Join Date: Aug 2019
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, Hyatt Globalist, BonVoy Titanium, IHG Diamond, Hilton Diamond, RR VIP
Posts: 1,037
This is proof that actual customer response, not just venting and ranting (though that's not totally unhealthy for a bit!), can get results. We all need to remember this if UA and AA try this junk!
#225




Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: LA
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 204
Exactly. DM ranks doubled during the pandemic and a majority of current DMs are swimming in hundreds of thousands of rollover MQMs that the bloated high tier ranks will march on to 2025 and onward towards 2030. Only saving grace is MM status will be the third tie breaker for upgrades in 2024, thats if there are any upgradable seats available once FCM is turbo charged.
I 100% agree. I am astounded by this counterswing of the pendulum. There will be a ton of EOY 23 Diamonds (including myself) who have hundreds of thousands of MQMs squirreled away and who will choose the option of status extension for anywhere fro 1-10 years. And in an effort to goose the Amex spending there will be a horde of new platinums that are sticking around for years.
This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with
This just makes no sense. Delta has utterly failed with both the goals they were pursuing to begin with

