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#932
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 31
Good afternoon,
If I have an AMEX Platinum card can I access Delta Sky Club upon arrival? I know that Delta initially announced disallowing lounge access upon arrival, but then they rolled that back. I am arriving to LAX on an economy DL flight, departing on a non-DL carrier (Qatar Airways, J ticket).
The lingo in the AMEX conditions says a same day Delta flight boarding pass (and AMEX platinum) is needed, but it does not specify that the boarding pass must be for departure (from LAX in my case).
I know I can access the Centurion Lounge, and the OneWorld Lounge, but I thought the Sky Club looks pretty swanky and I have a LONG layover so I can't access Centurion for the first few hours.
Thanks,
HisGirlFriday
If I have an AMEX Platinum card can I access Delta Sky Club upon arrival? I know that Delta initially announced disallowing lounge access upon arrival, but then they rolled that back. I am arriving to LAX on an economy DL flight, departing on a non-DL carrier (Qatar Airways, J ticket).
The lingo in the AMEX conditions says a same day Delta flight boarding pass (and AMEX platinum) is needed, but it does not specify that the boarding pass must be for departure (from LAX in my case).
I know I can access the Centurion Lounge, and the OneWorld Lounge, but I thought the Sky Club looks pretty swanky and I have a LONG layover so I can't access Centurion for the first few hours.
Thanks,
HisGirlFriday
#933
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,070
Recently flew First class RDU-JFK. Have a Delta branded Plat Amex. We were told we must pay $39 each to enter the RDU Sky Club prior to the flight. I really don’t know what it takes these days to freely access Sky Club if not these two things and don’t fly often enough to keep up with it.
Access policies are documented here -- https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
Last edited by xliioper; Jun 23, 2022 at 12:27 pm
#934
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: AAdvantage 2M
Posts: 1
Luggage Transfer Help DL (LAX) to FIN (LAX)
We are ticketed on DL RNO-LAX and then onward FIN LAX-ARN. We have the two trips ticketed separately and must recover our bags in LAX and transfer them to FIN in the Bradley terminal. We will need some baggage assistance. Can someone provide ideas on getting this kind of help?
#935
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Des Moines, IA
Programs: Marriott Plat, Delta Plat
Posts: 28
Last week my flight from FSD-MSP was delayed 7 hours over a mechanical issue. I was re-booked on the later flight from MSP-LAX. I had paid with points for first class on both legs but was downgraded on the MSP to LAX leg when they re-booked.
Do I just suck it up or could I expect some kind of reimbursement if I complained? It sucks to pay 50,000 miles each way for first and not get it on one of the longest legs.
Do I just suck it up or could I expect some kind of reimbursement if I complained? It sucks to pay 50,000 miles each way for first and not get it on one of the longest legs.
#936
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Last week my flight from FSD-MSP was delayed 7 hours over a mechanical issue. I was re-booked on the later flight from MSP-LAX. I had paid with points for first class on both legs but was downgraded on the MSP to LAX leg when they re-booked.
Do I just suck it up or could I expect some kind of reimbursement if I complained? It sucks to pay 50,000 miles each way for first and not get it on one of the longest legs.
Do I just suck it up or could I expect some kind of reimbursement if I complained? It sucks to pay 50,000 miles each way for first and not get it on one of the longest legs.
Was this a (DL) award ticket or did you pay (DL redeemable) miles to confirm FC upgrades? If it's the latter, your fare difference would be the points you paid, attributed to the two segments proportional to mileage. For a FC award ticket, DL should be able to check what the same flights in coach would have cost in miles at the time you obtained your award ticket.
#938
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Des Moines, IA
Programs: Marriott Plat, Delta Plat
Posts: 28
Traditionally DL paid a $200 voucher plus the fare difference when customers were involuntarily downgraded.
Was this a (DL) award ticket or did you pay (DL redeemable) miles to confirm FC upgrades? If it's the latter, your fare difference would be the points you paid, attributed to the two segments proportional to mileage. For a FC award ticket, DL should be able to check what the same flights in coach would have cost in miles at the time you obtained your award ticket.
Was this a (DL) award ticket or did you pay (DL redeemable) miles to confirm FC upgrades? If it's the latter, your fare difference would be the points you paid, attributed to the two segments proportional to mileage. For a FC award ticket, DL should be able to check what the same flights in coach would have cost in miles at the time you obtained your award ticket.
#939
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,424
Accepting Y during IRROPS is not an involuntary downgrade; I would expect a ratable refund of the fare upon request, but no $200 ETC.
#940
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: MSY
Programs: BA GfL
Posts: 5,929
Mr. tm478 and I will be flying ATL-FCO on DL in September. I’m in Premium Select, he’s in coach (two separate tickets, because I couldn’t really imagine how to book both of those at the same time). Neither of us has any status on DL. Do I get lounge access in ATL, and if so, can I bring him in with me? (Do I need to call and link the two records to do that to demonstrate that we’re traveling together?)
#941
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,070
Mr. tm478 and I will be flying ATL-FCO on DL in September. I’m in Premium Select, he’s in coach (two separate tickets, because I couldn’t really imagine how to book both of those at the same time). Neither of us has any status on DL. Do I get lounge access in ATL, and if so, can I bring him in with me? (Do I need to call and link the two records to do that to demonstrate that we’re traveling together?)
#942
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Des Moines, IA
Programs: Marriott Plat, Delta Plat
Posts: 28
Here's another odd question. I was thinking of taking a long trip to get some MQM's so I thought I'd try a trip to Bangkok. (I'm Platinum)
On DL website I got a trip from OMA-DTW-ICN-BKK and it showed I would earn 8,775 miles, 19,114 MQM, 1,755 MDM (and circle mapper showed the trip as 9,563 air miles)
On KLM's I found a trip from OMA-ATL-AMS-BBK listed as 10,949 air miles on circle mapper. The KLM listing doesn't show the fare class or any mileage that I could find.
On the DL site it shows that economy fares on KLM earn as little as 25% of the miles earned (depending on the fare class) but it shows 100% of MQM and bonus.
So the question is, would I get 100% of the 25% as MQM or 100% (plus or minus) of the miles flown as MQM?
It would really stink to save $50 on a fare but lose 75% of the MQM's, when that's the whole point! I thought I might get an "extra" 2,000 MQM by going the other way around the world.
It looks like I would get either around 21,000 MQM or 5,250. Anyone know a simple way to find out? Thanks!
On DL website I got a trip from OMA-DTW-ICN-BKK and it showed I would earn 8,775 miles, 19,114 MQM, 1,755 MDM (and circle mapper showed the trip as 9,563 air miles)
On KLM's I found a trip from OMA-ATL-AMS-BBK listed as 10,949 air miles on circle mapper. The KLM listing doesn't show the fare class or any mileage that I could find.
On the DL site it shows that economy fares on KLM earn as little as 25% of the miles earned (depending on the fare class) but it shows 100% of MQM and bonus.
So the question is, would I get 100% of the 25% as MQM or 100% (plus or minus) of the miles flown as MQM?
It would really stink to save $50 on a fare but lose 75% of the MQM's, when that's the whole point! I thought I might get an "extra" 2,000 MQM by going the other way around the world.
It looks like I would get either around 21,000 MQM or 5,250. Anyone know a simple way to find out? Thanks!
#943
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,070
Here's another odd question. I was thinking of taking a long trip to get some MQM's so I thought I'd try a trip to Bangkok. (I'm Platinum)
On DL website I got a trip from OMA-DTW-ICN-BKK and it showed I would earn 8,775 miles, 19,114 MQM, 1,755 MDM (and circle mapper showed the trip as 9,563 air miles)
On KLM's I found a trip from OMA-ATL-AMS-BBK listed as 10,949 air miles on circle mapper. The KLM listing doesn't show the fare class or any mileage that I could find.
On the DL site it shows that economy fares on KLM earn as little as 25% of the miles earned (depending on the fare class) but it shows 100% of MQM and bonus.
So the question is, would I get 100% of the 25% as MQM or 100% (plus or minus) of the miles flown as MQM?
It would really stink to save $50 on a fare but lose 75% of the MQM's, when that's the whole point! I thought I might get an "extra" 2,000 MQM by going the other way around the world.
It looks like I would get either around 21,000 MQM or 5,250. Anyone know a simple way to find out? Thanks!
On DL website I got a trip from OMA-DTW-ICN-BKK and it showed I would earn 8,775 miles, 19,114 MQM, 1,755 MDM (and circle mapper showed the trip as 9,563 air miles)
On KLM's I found a trip from OMA-ATL-AMS-BBK listed as 10,949 air miles on circle mapper. The KLM listing doesn't show the fare class or any mileage that I could find.
On the DL site it shows that economy fares on KLM earn as little as 25% of the miles earned (depending on the fare class) but it shows 100% of MQM and bonus.
So the question is, would I get 100% of the 25% as MQM or 100% (plus or minus) of the miles flown as MQM?
It would really stink to save $50 on a fare but lose 75% of the MQM's, when that's the whole point! I thought I might get an "extra" 2,000 MQM by going the other way around the world.
It looks like I would get either around 21,000 MQM or 5,250. Anyone know a simple way to find out? Thanks!
#944
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
The numbers above for "miles flown" seem to be one way distances for the routings. A RT in most coach fares at 100% MQM will earn twice the indicated numbers of "miles flown" as MQMs.
#945
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 102
Here's another odd question. I was thinking of taking a long trip to get some MQM's so I thought I'd try a trip to Bangkok. (I'm Platinum)
On DL website I got a trip from OMA-DTW-ICN-BKK and it showed I would earn 8,775 miles, 19,114 MQM, 1,755 MDM (and circle mapper showed the trip as 9,563 air miles)
On KLM's I found a trip from OMA-ATL-AMS-BBK listed as 10,949 air miles on circle mapper. The KLM listing doesn't show the fare class or any mileage that I could find.
On the DL site it shows that economy fares on KLM earn as little as 25% of the miles earned (depending on the fare class) but it shows 100% of MQM and bonus.
So the question is, would I get 100% of the 25% as MQM or 100% (plus or minus) of the miles flown as MQM?
It would really stink to save $50 on a fare but lose 75% of the MQM's, when that's the whole point! I thought I might get an "extra" 2,000 MQM by going the other way around the world.
It looks like I would get either around 21,000 MQM or 5,250. Anyone know a simple way to find out? Thanks!
On DL website I got a trip from OMA-DTW-ICN-BKK and it showed I would earn 8,775 miles, 19,114 MQM, 1,755 MDM (and circle mapper showed the trip as 9,563 air miles)
On KLM's I found a trip from OMA-ATL-AMS-BBK listed as 10,949 air miles on circle mapper. The KLM listing doesn't show the fare class or any mileage that I could find.
On the DL site it shows that economy fares on KLM earn as little as 25% of the miles earned (depending on the fare class) but it shows 100% of MQM and bonus.
So the question is, would I get 100% of the 25% as MQM or 100% (plus or minus) of the miles flown as MQM?
It would really stink to save $50 on a fare but lose 75% of the MQM's, when that's the whole point! I thought I might get an "extra" 2,000 MQM by going the other way around the world.
It looks like I would get either around 21,000 MQM or 5,250. Anyone know a simple way to find out? Thanks!