Jun 20, 2017, 7:21 pm
Last edit by: audidudi
Status as of 23 Apr 2024
Initial flights:
DTW>NRT effective Oct 30 2017 (from B744). Inaugural A350 flight, flown by N502DN.
DTW>ICN effective Nov 18 2017 (in conjunction with the B744). First flight flown by N501DN. Transitioned to the A350 Dec 18 2017.
DTW>PEK effective Jan 17 2018 (in conjunction with the A332). First flight flown by N503DN. Transitioned to the A350 Feb 13 2018.
DTW>AMS effective March 31 2018 (from A332/333) - DL132/133 only.
DTW>PVG effective April 19 2018 (from B744/B777).
ATL>ICN effective March 24 2018 (from B777).
LAX>PVG effective July 2 2018 (alternated with the B777 until July 18 2018).
Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china
Related threads:
2017 The Year of the A350
Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
UA 77W Polaris vs DL A350 DeltaOne in Business
All cabins feature wifi, USB power, and AVOD at every seat.
Delta One (business/first seats, rows 1-9)
* Features 32 of the new Delta One Suites with lie-flat seats, 22-24" width, and 76-81" length in a 1-2-1 configuration.
* A full-height door at every suite and sliding privacy dividers between center suites
* In-suite, customizable ambient lighting; dedicated stowage compartments for shoes, headphones and laptops; and memory foam-enhanced comfort cushion
* An 18-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment monitor and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on the new suites: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ess-class.html
Delta Premium Select (premium economy seats, rows 20-25)
* Has 48 seats with 18.5" width, 38" pitch, up to 7" of recline, and adjustable leg rests in a 2-4-2 configuration
* Up to a 13.3-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment screen and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on these new seats: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...m-economy.html
Main Cabin (economy seats, rows 30-55)
* Has 226 seats with 18" width and 31-32" pitch in a 3-3-3 configuration.
* Preferred seats are window and aisle seats in rows 30-33, 41, and all seats in exit row 40
* Does not have 110-volt power
Config of the 3-class cabin was…D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)…PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)...MC/226 seats (rows 30-55)…for a total 306 seats. This config was on the first 13 frames (3501-3513) delivered and then subsequently they were updated to the 4-class cabin as detailed below.
Config of the 4-class cabin is...D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)...PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/190 seats (rows 34-55)… for a total of 306 seats. Aircraft designation is 359.
Config of the 3-class cabin (ex-LATAM) is…D1/20 seats (rows 1-5)…C +/63 seats (rows 16-22)…MC/246 seats (rows 23-51)…for an total of 339 seats. Aircraft designation is 35L.
New config of the 4-class cabin starting 06/01/24 is…D1/40 seats (rows 1-11)…PS/40 seats (rows 20-24)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/159 seats (rows 34-51) for a total of 275 seats. Aircraft designation is 35H.
Seat map (link to Delta webpage)
359 (4 class) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3D-xZGfAs
35L (ex-Latam) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO-Os_rLCk
A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china
A350-900: 20/35 delivered (19 in service, 1 in induction).
3501 N501DN Delivered TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017. C+ installed at MSP Jan 10-Feb 2 2021.
3502 N502DN Delivered TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017. C+ installed at MSP Feb 17-March 1 2021.
3503 N503DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 2-16 2021.
3504 N504DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight LAX>PVG on July 2 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 1-15 2021.
3505 N505DN Delivered TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 26-April 9 2021.
3506 N506DN Delivered TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 15-26 2021.
3507 N507DN Delivered TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT March 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Dec 30 2020-Jan 20 2021.
3508 N508DN Delivered TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN March 30 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 17-31 2021.
3509 N509DN Delivered TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN May 6 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 30-Feb 15 2021.
3510 N510DN Delivered TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT June 16 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 15-March 6 2021.
3511 N511DN Delivered TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN July 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 16-April 16 2021.
3512 N512DN Delivered TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 17-22 2021.
3513 N513DZ Delivered TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service DTW>AMS March 21 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 22-25 2021.
Note: all A359s with ship numbers 3514 and higher were or will be delivered with C+ installed.
3514 N514DN Delivered TLS>NRT Sept 16-17 2020. Entered service DTW>CDG Oct 17 2020.
3515 N515DN Delivered TLS>AMS Sept 16 2020. Entered revenue service (cargo) NRT>ATL Nov 5 2020 and revenue passenger service ATL>ICN Nov 6 2020.
3516 N516DN Delivered TLS>NRT Jan 26-27 2022. Entered service MSP>DTW Feb 24 2022.
3517 N517DZ Delivered TLS>NGO Feb 1-2 2022…ferried NGO>NRT for induction Feb 12 2022. Entered service DTW>AMS March 7 2022.
3518 N518DZ Delivered TLS>NRT Nov 22-23 2022. Entered service DTW>HND Dec 18 2022.
3519 N519DN Delivered TLS>NRT Dec 16-17 2022. Entered service MSP>PHX Jan 9 2023. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
3520 N520DN Delivered TLS>NRT April 4-5 2023. First aircraft delivered in the latest 35H config...exited NRT-MSP Apr 18 2024. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 661 3521 N521DN...third test flight/first CAF April 23 2024…special “Team USA” livery…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 673 3522 N522DZ...taxi check April 5 2024...special “2028 LA Olympic Games livery”...delivery spring 2024.
MSN 677 3523 N523DN...spotted in full livery w/o engines April 10 2024…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 680 3524 N524DN...spotted in full livery w/o engines April 24 2024…delivery spring 2024.
MSN xxx 3525 N525DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3526 N526DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3527 N527DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
MSN xxx 3528 N528DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
Upcoming deliveries/orders as of 12/31/23:
2024 7
2025 6
2026 & later 3
Total 16
A350-900 (35L): 9
MSN 024...3568...N568DZ...ex PR-XTA...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN May 5-8 2023 for induction. Induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>ATL Aug 19-20 2023….entered service ATL>MXP Sept 3 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 027...3569...N569DZ...ex PR-XTB...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN April 13-15 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>LAX>ATL July 7 2023...entered service ATL>BCN July 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 048...3570...N570DZ...ex A7-AMC/PR-XTE...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 24-26 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL May 17 2023...entered service ATL>CDG May 27 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 064...3571...N571DZ... ex A7-AMB/PR-XTF...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Jan 12-14 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL April 4 2023...entered service ATL>AMS April 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 200...3572...N572DZ...ex PR-XTH...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Nov 9-11 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Jan 20 2023…entered service ATL>GTB Feb 11 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 250...3573...N573DZ...ex PR-XTI…ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Sept 27-29 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Dec 7 2022...entered service DTW>HNL Jan 1 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 265...3574...N574DZ...ex A7-AQA/PR-XTJ...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN June 2-5 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>MSP Aug 19 2022...entered service ATL>SEA Sept 9 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 282...3575...N575DZ...ex A7-AQB/PR-XTK...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 11-13 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP June 1 2022…entered service ATL>DTW June 13 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 313...3576...N576DZ...ex A7-AQC/PR-XTL...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN March 10-12 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP July 18 2022…entered service ATL>SEA Aug 2 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
*The 9 ex-LATAM frames were refurbished between February 2022 and September 2023…config of the 3-class cabin is D1/30…C+/63…MC/246 for a total of 339 seats.
Initial flights:
DTW>NRT effective Oct 30 2017 (from B744). Inaugural A350 flight, flown by N502DN.
DTW>ICN effective Nov 18 2017 (in conjunction with the B744). First flight flown by N501DN. Transitioned to the A350 Dec 18 2017.
DTW>PEK effective Jan 17 2018 (in conjunction with the A332). First flight flown by N503DN. Transitioned to the A350 Feb 13 2018.
DTW>AMS effective March 31 2018 (from A332/333) - DL132/133 only.
DTW>PVG effective April 19 2018 (from B744/B777).
ATL>ICN effective March 24 2018 (from B777).
LAX>PVG effective July 2 2018 (alternated with the B777 until July 18 2018).
Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china
Related threads:
2017 The Year of the A350
Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
UA 77W Polaris vs DL A350 DeltaOne in Business
All cabins feature wifi, USB power, and AVOD at every seat.
Delta One (business/first seats, rows 1-9)
* Features 32 of the new Delta One Suites with lie-flat seats, 22-24" width, and 76-81" length in a 1-2-1 configuration.
* A full-height door at every suite and sliding privacy dividers between center suites
* In-suite, customizable ambient lighting; dedicated stowage compartments for shoes, headphones and laptops; and memory foam-enhanced comfort cushion
* An 18-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment monitor and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on the new suites: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ess-class.html
Delta Premium Select (premium economy seats, rows 20-25)
* Has 48 seats with 18.5" width, 38" pitch, up to 7" of recline, and adjustable leg rests in a 2-4-2 configuration
* Up to a 13.3-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment screen and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on these new seats: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...m-economy.html
Main Cabin (economy seats, rows 30-55)
* Has 226 seats with 18" width and 31-32" pitch in a 3-3-3 configuration.
* Preferred seats are window and aisle seats in rows 30-33, 41, and all seats in exit row 40
* Does not have 110-volt power
Config of the 3-class cabin was…D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)…PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)...MC/226 seats (rows 30-55)…for a total 306 seats. This config was on the first 13 frames (3501-3513) delivered and then subsequently they were updated to the 4-class cabin as detailed below.
Config of the 4-class cabin is...D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)...PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/190 seats (rows 34-55)… for a total of 306 seats. Aircraft designation is 359.
Config of the 3-class cabin (ex-LATAM) is…D1/20 seats (rows 1-5)…C +/63 seats (rows 16-22)…MC/246 seats (rows 23-51)…for an total of 339 seats. Aircraft designation is 35L.
New config of the 4-class cabin starting 06/01/24 is…D1/40 seats (rows 1-11)…PS/40 seats (rows 20-24)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/159 seats (rows 34-51) for a total of 275 seats. Aircraft designation is 35H.
Seat map (link to Delta webpage)
359 (4 class) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3D-xZGfAs
35L (ex-Latam) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO-Os_rLCk
A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china
A350-900: 20/35 delivered (19 in service, 1 in induction).
3501 N501DN Delivered TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017. C+ installed at MSP Jan 10-Feb 2 2021.
3502 N502DN Delivered TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017. C+ installed at MSP Feb 17-March 1 2021.
3503 N503DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 2-16 2021.
3504 N504DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight LAX>PVG on July 2 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 1-15 2021.
3505 N505DN Delivered TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 26-April 9 2021.
3506 N506DN Delivered TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 15-26 2021.
3507 N507DN Delivered TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT March 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Dec 30 2020-Jan 20 2021.
3508 N508DN Delivered TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN March 30 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 17-31 2021.
3509 N509DN Delivered TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN May 6 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 30-Feb 15 2021.
3510 N510DN Delivered TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT June 16 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 15-March 6 2021.
3511 N511DN Delivered TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN July 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 16-April 16 2021.
3512 N512DN Delivered TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 17-22 2021.
3513 N513DZ Delivered TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service DTW>AMS March 21 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 22-25 2021.
Note: all A359s with ship numbers 3514 and higher were or will be delivered with C+ installed.
3514 N514DN Delivered TLS>NRT Sept 16-17 2020. Entered service DTW>CDG Oct 17 2020.
3515 N515DN Delivered TLS>AMS Sept 16 2020. Entered revenue service (cargo) NRT>ATL Nov 5 2020 and revenue passenger service ATL>ICN Nov 6 2020.
3516 N516DN Delivered TLS>NRT Jan 26-27 2022. Entered service MSP>DTW Feb 24 2022.
3517 N517DZ Delivered TLS>NGO Feb 1-2 2022…ferried NGO>NRT for induction Feb 12 2022. Entered service DTW>AMS March 7 2022.
3518 N518DZ Delivered TLS>NRT Nov 22-23 2022. Entered service DTW>HND Dec 18 2022.
3519 N519DN Delivered TLS>NRT Dec 16-17 2022. Entered service MSP>PHX Jan 9 2023. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
3520 N520DN Delivered TLS>NRT April 4-5 2023. First aircraft delivered in the latest 35H config...exited NRT-MSP Apr 18 2024. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 661 3521 N521DN...third test flight/first CAF April 23 2024…special “Team USA” livery…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 673 3522 N522DZ...taxi check April 5 2024...special “2028 LA Olympic Games livery”...delivery spring 2024.
MSN 677 3523 N523DN...spotted in full livery w/o engines April 10 2024…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 680 3524 N524DN...spotted in full livery w/o engines April 24 2024…delivery spring 2024.
MSN xxx 3525 N525DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3526 N526DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3527 N527DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
MSN xxx 3528 N528DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
Upcoming deliveries/orders as of 12/31/23:
2024 7
2025 6
2026 & later 3
Total 16
A350-900 (35L): 9
MSN 024...3568...N568DZ...ex PR-XTA...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN May 5-8 2023 for induction. Induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>ATL Aug 19-20 2023….entered service ATL>MXP Sept 3 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 027...3569...N569DZ...ex PR-XTB...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN April 13-15 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>LAX>ATL July 7 2023...entered service ATL>BCN July 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 048...3570...N570DZ...ex A7-AMC/PR-XTE...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 24-26 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL May 17 2023...entered service ATL>CDG May 27 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 064...3571...N571DZ... ex A7-AMB/PR-XTF...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Jan 12-14 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL April 4 2023...entered service ATL>AMS April 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 200...3572...N572DZ...ex PR-XTH...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Nov 9-11 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Jan 20 2023…entered service ATL>GTB Feb 11 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 250...3573...N573DZ...ex PR-XTI…ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Sept 27-29 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Dec 7 2022...entered service DTW>HNL Jan 1 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 265...3574...N574DZ...ex A7-AQA/PR-XTJ...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN June 2-5 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>MSP Aug 19 2022...entered service ATL>SEA Sept 9 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 282...3575...N575DZ...ex A7-AQB/PR-XTK...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 11-13 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP June 1 2022…entered service ATL>DTW June 13 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 313...3576...N576DZ...ex A7-AQC/PR-XTL...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN March 10-12 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP July 18 2022…entered service ATL>SEA Aug 2 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
*The 9 ex-LATAM frames were refurbished between February 2022 and September 2023…config of the 3-class cabin is D1/30…C+/63…MC/246 for a total of 339 seats.
Best Seats, Amenities, & Experiences on Delta's A350
Apr 19, 2020, 10:29 pm
#1186
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: CT
Programs: DL360, Marriott Ambassdor
Posts: 69
Not surprising they went ahead with the swap.
Per a TPG article from last fall (https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-...-airbus-a350s/), it appears the LATAM delivery slots are 2021 - 2025. I assume the terms on these don't require payment until they are actually delivered so it's not like DL owes the $3B list price today, they've simply taken over the delivery slots at this point.
Per a TPG article from last fall (https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-...-airbus-a350s/), it appears the LATAM delivery slots are 2021 - 2025. I assume the terms on these don't require payment until they are actually delivered so it's not like DL owes the $3B list price today, they've simply taken over the delivery slots at this point.
Would be nice to go to South America on some DL metal that doesn't feel like it's on its last legs. Frankly, it would be nice just to see a DL 350 out of NYC.
I realize the orders aren't necessarily set in stone and this is looking ahead in uncertain times, but figured, why not speculate.
Apr 19, 2020, 11:39 pm
#1187
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: BOS
Programs: AA PP, DL PM
Posts: 2,086
Any guesses on where DL might put those 350s? I imagine with the LATAM partnership they'd consider JFK/ATL-SCL. Would have also thought JFK-LHR could be an option, although the retrofits for the 764s make me think otherwise.
Would be nice to go to South America on some DL metal that doesn't feel like it's on its last legs. Frankly, it would be nice just to see a DL 350 out of NYC.
I realize the orders aren't necessarily set in stone and this is looking ahead in uncertain times, but figured, why not speculate.
Would be nice to go to South America on some DL metal that doesn't feel like it's on its last legs. Frankly, it would be nice just to see a DL 350 out of NYC.
I realize the orders aren't necessarily set in stone and this is looking ahead in uncertain times, but figured, why not speculate.
Apr 20, 2020, 12:37 am
#1188
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: CT
Programs: DL360, Marriott Ambassdor
Posts: 69
My guess would be, given that they have the most seats of any DL aircraft, that they will go to the routes where they need the capacity (think DTW-AMS, ATL-AMS, ATL-ICN) or where they need the range vs an A330 (ATL-ICN). If they start needing more capacity on JFK-LHR but do not want to add another flight right away, I could see it coming to that route as well. Historically, most US airlines have given the Europe and Asia routes their best aircraft and sent the old stuff to South America, since it's not quite as far (e.g. within range of a 767) and there is less competition / premium demand.
Again, probably just hopelessly optimistic to see these used on different routes.
Apr 20, 2020, 8:03 am
#1189
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,051
Any guesses on where DL might put those 350s? I imagine with the LATAM partnership they'd consider JFK/ATL-SCL. Would have also thought JFK-LHR could be an option, although the retrofits for the 764s make me think otherwise.
Would be nice to go to South America on some DL metal that doesn't feel like it's on its last legs. Frankly, it would be nice just to see a DL 350 out of NYC.
I realize the orders aren't necessarily set in stone and this is looking ahead in uncertain times, but figured, why not speculate.
Would be nice to go to South America on some DL metal that doesn't feel like it's on its last legs. Frankly, it would be nice just to see a DL 350 out of NYC.
I realize the orders aren't necessarily set in stone and this is looking ahead in uncertain times, but figured, why not speculate.
Of course, Delta could choose to put a bigger front cabin on another aircraft if they wanted to, but that has not seemed to be their approach in recent times.
Apr 20, 2020, 8:12 am
#1190
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,047
JFK-LHR flights are often full up front but not so full, sometimes even bordering on empty (even during normal times) in the back, so a giant plane with tons of seats to fill doesn't make much sense for Delta on that route, whereas an aircraft with a big front cabin like the 764 works perfectly; the A332 is also a good fit and ran that route for a while before the latest 764 overhaul. (It makes more sense for American to offer lots of coach seats to London because they have a lot of passengers connecting onward to elsewhere in Europe and to Africa/Middle East/South and Central Asia on BA; Virgin gives Delta only a handful of onward connecting opportunities at best.)
Of course, Delta could choose to put a bigger front cabin on another aircraft if they wanted to, but that has not seemed to be their approach in recent times.
Of course, Delta could choose to put a bigger front cabin on another aircraft if they wanted to, but that has not seemed to be their approach in recent times.
Apr 20, 2020, 8:29 am
#1191
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,051
I'm sure that was also part of the thinking, though it doesn't really explain why they've gone back to the 764s, which even with the refresh are arguably a worse product than the A332s (but I guess maybe Delta views the 764 seat "freshness" as being the more salient factor). The one thing that both aircraft have in common is the highest ratio of D1 seats to Y seats in Delta's fleet, though.
Apr 20, 2020, 7:26 pm
#1192
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHX Sky Harbor
Posts: 380
Any guesses on where DL might put those 350s? I imagine with the LATAM partnership they'd consider JFK/ATL-SCL. Would have also thought JFK-LHR could be an option, although the retrofits for the 764s make me think otherwise.
Would be nice to go to South America on some DL metal that doesn't feel like it's on its last legs. Frankly, it would be nice just to see a DL 350 out of NYC.
I realize the orders aren't necessarily set in stone and this is looking ahead in uncertain times, but figured, why not speculate.
Would be nice to go to South America on some DL metal that doesn't feel like it's on its last legs. Frankly, it would be nice just to see a DL 350 out of NYC.
I realize the orders aren't necessarily set in stone and this is looking ahead in uncertain times, but figured, why not speculate.
Apr 22, 2020, 12:09 pm
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Apr 22, 2020, 12:10 pm
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I think plane assignments for next year are extremely subject to change once we see where the industry is. Curious why the disappointment tho, 300 Neo is a nice plane! Now if they had scheduled a 763 I'd understand fully haha.
Apr 22, 2020, 9:59 pm
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A339's were swapped in sometime last year when they started to arrive from Airbus - the B767-300ER's were the legs predecessor. So SEA-ICN was the 2nd point to point route after SEA-NRT point to point which was the initial A339's route. SEA-PEK was to be the 3rd until the pandemic took place and the ICN-MNL was to be the 4th. SEA-AMS was a summer swap in, guess we can't count that then - it ran for maybe a month before the crisis hit.
Apr 22, 2020, 10:04 pm
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Apr 22, 2020, 10:08 pm
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My mistake - sorry. It was started early then and was to continue through the summer...maybe as a permanent 339 route, I didn't check out that far in advance. Again, sorry about that.
Apr 22, 2020, 10:11 pm
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With 5 more more A339s due to arrive this year, I'm guessing it was going to be permanent. Everything is up in the air now of course (including those 5 new planes)