Aug 9, 2016, 11:00 pm
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Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:
Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)
Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.
Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017
Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.
New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3
Bus Map
Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html
Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:
In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)
Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)
Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris
Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet
Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.
External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan
Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg
Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg
Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf
Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)
Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.
Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017
Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.
New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3
Bus Map
Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html
Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:
Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.
Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)
Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris
Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet
Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.
External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan
Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg
Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg
Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf
Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
LAX 2017 Terminal Move: The Definitive Thread
Apr 5, 2017, 3:39 pm
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To top it off, since May 2014, you have been able access TBIT with a BP for a same day flight departing any LAX terminal including T1/T2/T3,
Apr 5, 2017, 3:53 pm
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Sure, but I think most lounge-eligible passengers go to the lounge contracted by their operating airline nearish their gate rather than going to some nicer lounge on the other side of the airport, even if it's not really that far.
Apr 5, 2017, 4:05 pm
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Agreed; I perhaps was not clear but my implication was it would already be a problem if it was going to happen.
Apr 5, 2017, 4:32 pm
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I think it's a very narrow subset of people who use lounges in TBIT if their gate is far away. LAX employees often try to point me to my departure terminal, but I reassure them I am going to a lounge beforehand.
Apr 5, 2017, 6:14 pm
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My point was that airlines in T2/3/6 put very little capacity pressure on TBIT lounges in practice even though those airlines' customers can already use TBIT lounges if they want in many cases; if they move to TBIT, they will put added pressure on lounges, assuming capacity remains roughly constant.
Apr 6, 2017, 11:50 am
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My point was that airlines in T2/3/6 put very little capacity pressure on TBIT lounges in practice even though those airlines' customers can already use TBIT lounges if they want in many cases; if they move to TBIT, they will put added pressure on lounges, assuming capacity remains roughly constant.
Avianca/Taca [*A]
Copa (effective April 7) [*A]
Volaris [ULCC does not offer any lounge access]
Interjet [ULCC does not offer any lounge access]
I don't think these flights will add that much volume to the lounges. Avianca and Copa has a couple of flights spread out through out the day and the *A lounge has plenty of space. I'm not sure if Taca even offers lounge access.
I doubt very much that many Volaris and Interjet passengers are Priority Pass members or *A/OW/ST elites eligible to gain entry based on status
And we also have Aeroflot moving out of TBIT so the lounge capacity picture probably doesn't change very much.
Delta will eventually use TBIT too but they will have air side bus setup so DL passengers will have access to T2 and T3 lounges as well.
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Apr 6, 2017, 12:39 pm
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At this point, TACA is just an operating certificate for Avianca's El Salvador division. All the branding is Avianca and all the usual *A benefits apply. That said, your point stands and I doubt there will be much additional strain on the TBIT lounges.
Apr 6, 2017, 12:41 pm
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These are the airlines moving to TBIT departure:
Avianca/Taca [*A]
Copa (effective April 7) [*A]
Volaris [ULCC does not offer any lounge access]
Interjet [ULCC does not offer any lounge access]
I don't think these flights will add that much volume to the lounges. Avianca and Copa has a couple of flights spread out through out the day and the *A lounge has plenty of space. I'm not sure if Taca even offers lounge access.
I doubt very much that many Volaris and Interjet passengers are Priority Pass members or *A/OW/ST elites eligible to gain entry based on status
And we also have Aeroflot moving out of TBIT so the lounge capacity picture probably doesn't change very much.
Delta will eventually use TBIT too but they will have air side bus setup so DL passengers will have access to T2 and T3 lounges as well.
Avianca/Taca [*A]
Copa (effective April 7) [*A]
Volaris [ULCC does not offer any lounge access]
Interjet [ULCC does not offer any lounge access]
I don't think these flights will add that much volume to the lounges. Avianca and Copa has a couple of flights spread out through out the day and the *A lounge has plenty of space. I'm not sure if Taca even offers lounge access.
I doubt very much that many Volaris and Interjet passengers are Priority Pass members or *A/OW/ST elites eligible to gain entry based on status
And we also have Aeroflot moving out of TBIT so the lounge capacity picture probably doesn't change very much.
Delta will eventually use TBIT too but they will have air side bus setup so DL passengers will have access to T2 and T3 lounges as well.
Also add Southwest and Thomas Cook to your list of airlines moving to TBIT, but no lounge access.
You're probably right though in your overall conclusion that it won't be a big issue.
Apr 6, 2017, 3:33 pm
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You forgot about Qatar and Hainan. Also I wouldn't write off DL pax flying out of TBIT, they are likely to use the TBIT lounge rather than take the bus to T2/T3.
Also add Southwest and Thomas Cook to your list of airlines moving to TBIT, but no lounge access.
You're probably right though in your overall conclusion that it won't be a big issue.
Also add Southwest and Thomas Cook to your list of airlines moving to TBIT, but no lounge access.
You're probably right though in your overall conclusion that it won't be a big issue.
SW will only have international arrivals, no departures from TBIT. No lounge access anyway.
Apr 6, 2017, 3:57 pm
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Though I agree that this a non issue. I do think those checking in at T2/3 with a TBIT departure would almost certainly clear security, take the bus, then hit the lounge. You do not want an unknown delay between the lounge and the gates.
Apr 6, 2017, 4:31 pm
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Even if I did go through security at T2/T3, I would surely take the bus to TBIT before using the lounge unless my only form of access was a SkyClub membership. Both to minimize risks of missing my flight, and for the better lounge experience. Now I haven't personally been to the Skyteam lounge in TBIT, and I've heard it's worse than the Oneworld and Star ones, but surely it has to be better than a DL Skyclub?
Southwest international passengers check in at Terminal 1; will be bused to Terminal B where international flights depart/arrive
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Apr 6, 2017, 4:45 pm
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I would think that the best design is for passengers to check in T2/3 and walk landslide to TBIT. I strongly suspect that that's how it will be signed. So I think that most customers with flights out of TBIT who check in at T2/3 will not go landslide at T2/3. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the airside shuttle buses are only available to those with DL/DL partner boarding passes.
Apr 6, 2017, 5:38 pm
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There's Precheck lite, at least at the downstairs checkpoint. But agreed, I would probably just go to T4 and use the dedicated lane.
Apr 6, 2017, 8:51 pm
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AFAIK, every single non-pre TSA checkpoint does precheck lite, so that doesn't say much. I'm glad they do precheck lite, but it doesn't save any time because you have to wait behind the non-pre people.