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Originally Posted by Builderman
(Post 20067912)
Currently unknown.
Also, to really settle this whole codeshare/JV/006 stock debate that seems to have erupted, it might also be helpful for them (DL reps) to create some example scenarios to put it to rest or more clearly spell out exactly what would and would not qualify. I'm not taking a stance either way because I don't claim to know enough about the intricacies, but trusting the same IT behind the new site and the same old award calendar to peg down exact spend with little follow up from travelers seems like a tall order at this point and I'd be rightfully wary about how that will shake out in practice. I guess they have a year to nail it down. |
Originally Posted by bpe
(Post 20067776)
How would one determine how many MQDs are being earned on a non-006 ticket with some DL segments?
For instance, suppose I fly AMS -(KL)- JFK -(DL)- PIT on a KLM ticket that I paid $700 for, with the JFK-PIT segment on a DL flight number. I'm assuming that it would be some amount 'paid' by KLM to Delta for the JFK-PIT segment, but how much? There will be people will be wanting to earn every MQD that they can (as they do with MQM or even RDM now) and I'd thing that being able to know this sort of thing ahead of time would be somewhat important, but I just can't see how it would be implemented. SFO DL SEA101.40LA10H3SY DL MSP105.12TA10ATSC DL CHI70.70TA07A0NA DL X/ATL DL SFO335.81QA07A0NA USD613.03END ZP SFOSEAMSPORDATL XF SFO4.5SEA4.5ORD4.5ATL4.5 The system should be able grab the relevant segment prices and add it to your MQD, right? Edit: Here's an example of a Matrix KLM/DL fare from SFO-DUS: SFO DL X/ATL KL DUS M 466.00THXB67US KL X/ATL DL SFO M 466.00THXB67US NUC 932.00 END ROE 1.00 XT 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 34.40US 7.50AY 5.40DE 56.40OY 22.60RA 516.00YR 13.50XF SFO4.50 ATL4.50 ATL4.50 But now that I look at it, it doesn't break down the individual segments... might just be that you'll be forced to purchase the flight from DL, or purchase the DL coded flights from KL/AF/etc |
Originally Posted by Xeno
(Post 20067256)
The loss of a 50% bonus MQMs on M fares will remove me from the DM ranks after 2013. I don't know the origin of the notion that DL will cut the cost of M fares since they have gotten over $5K on two M fare tickets from me this year alone.
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Just received an email notification of the changes so not just on the website now.
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Originally Posted by exwannabe
(Post 20067934)
My presumption is a flight purchased with any sort of e-credit does count. So the VDB credit would count when used on a new qualiflying DL spend. For MQDs, DL will look at the fare price of the flown ticket is all.
A more interesting question would be pay with miles. |
Originally Posted by roknroll
(Post 20067990)
Aren't the tickets usually broken down by each segment, taxes, fees, etc? Look at your receipts and it usually looks something like what I have for my SFO-CHICAGO round trip coming up.
SFO DL SEA101.40LA10H3SY DL MSP105.12TA10ATSC DL CHI70.70TA07A0NA DL X/ATL DL SFO335.81QA07A0NA USD613.03END ZP SFOSEAMSPORDATL XF SFO4.5SEA4.5ORD4.5ATL4.5 The system should be able grab the relevant segment prices and add it to your MQD, right? |
So long Delta skymiles. It was good, but not anymore. Ciao bella.
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Originally Posted by BHArt
(Post 20068008)
Good point, you can almost disregard my post above.
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So as long as I spend 25k on my AMEX, there are no changes other than the M fare not getting bonus mileage bump?
Isn't the main reason you want an AMEX Plat is to spend 30k for the 10k MQM? Especially now that the Gold only gets you a free bag? |
Originally Posted by iggyray
(Post 20068024)
So long Delta skymiles. It was good, but not anymore.
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Originally Posted by milehighflyer
(Post 20067951)
How are you able to make DM on such low spending? I am honestly curious. I can't imagine you have enough IDB cert to offset enough airfare to fly 125k+ miles a year. Are you doing this on MQMs? Are you just able to book far enough out to get cheap fares?
I made DM for the first time last year, and according to my expense reports I spent $20k+ on airfare. I'm sure that even for those long years where I was just a lonely PM, I still would have exceeded $12,500. Many have said that I need to write a book. Would you buy? |
Originally Posted by catwings01
(Post 20067999)
Just received an email notification of the changes so not just on the website now.
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I can't search 25 pages at this time, but I have one obvious question; does rollover count towards 2015 status or will that be dead ? I will easily rollover DM level miles into 2014, hence the question.
There would be the obvious scenario that with rollover, you qualify, hit the dollars threshold on the card and just start flying other carriers. |
I'm appreciative of the advance notice from Delta, and I'm fortunate in both that Delta is my #2 program behind WN and that I have lifetime Gold from American to fall back onto. Plus, I don't live in a DL hub.
The MQD part doesn't bother me too much as long as I stay FO - my typical cheap DL ticket for work is around 11 CPM, and I usually have a few tickets in the 30 CPM range. But if I was going to add in the additional 25k MQM in 2014 to go for making Gold, I'd be doing some discounted AF Premium Economy tickets where I'm worried that the DL IT infrastructure might not let me buy on 006 ticket stock. Right now, my inclination is to just stay at FO this year and see how the AA/US dance works out. |
Will drop Delta like a hot toast... that means Delta will now be losing 4 individuals who fly on an average 8 long haul flights with them each and and every year. To be honest Delta sucks as it is one of the crappiest American Airlines to fly from Zurich to the States. My self and family will now be using Swiss ... Beats Delta and any American airlines hands down
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