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CJKatl Jan 17, 2013 9:25 am


Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter (Post 20066793)
Don't expect any direct responses here.

For sure. I've submitted the question to DL and gotten back a canned response. I just don't get it. Other programs treat segments the same as miles when it comes to this, but for some reason, DL stubbornly refuses to evey consider this.

StayingHomeIsBetter Jan 17, 2013 9:26 am


Originally Posted by jetta2.0t (Post 20066713)
Upgrade lists are finally going to thin out.

I still doubt this will happen... or if it does, it will most significantly impact those who were on the UG list but not in contention to actualy get the UG.

I suspect that DL management has an analysis that says this will not have a significant impact on elite numbers, at least at the DM/PM levels.

It is to DL's advantage to inflate the higher levels. More DMs creates more competition that incentives DMs to do things that put more cash into the DL till... such as buying up one fare class to hedge UG chances.

Long UG lists don't cost DL anything (other than credibility, and I don't believe they are sensitive to that).

Knocking a few FOs off the list might increase bag fee revenues.

On the other hand, if that happens, there will be more folks trying to carry on more luggage... so much for "an even more exclusive Medallion experience and make it easier for Medallion members to enjoy their benefits" as we wait for our PDB while the FAs lug excess carry-ons out the door. :D

Builderman Jan 17, 2013 9:27 am


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20066909)
That simply isn't true. Look at your CC statements for any flight that was purchased to which this happened. The charge showing the ticket number still shows as 006.

Y'all are spreading false information just to stir the pot.

To which what happened, exactly? Tickets that are bought on 057/074 stock show up on CCs as 057/074 stock. Tickets that are reissued from 006 to 057/074 due to schedule changes obviously aren't going to retroactively change on the CC.

hnewman Jan 17, 2013 9:27 am


Originally Posted by exwannabe (Post 20066889)
MQDs will obviously have to go to the flyer.

If they go to the purchaser, then that would hit many business flyers whose tickets are purchased directly by the company. .

Do they? and did DL think that through?

bubbashow Jan 17, 2013 9:28 am


Originally Posted by Builderman (Post 20066980)
To which what happened, exactly? Tickets that are bought on 057/074 stock show up on CCs as 057/074 stock. Tickets that are reissued from 006 to 057/074 due to schedule changes obviously aren't going to retroactively change on the CC.

I quoted the wrong text. It was about the 006 rebook onto 057/074 stock during IRROPS.

The spend is still on 006 stock in that case. Ludicrous.

liuenci Jan 17, 2013 9:28 am

I applause Delta for doing this. As a high rev customer who has seen the ranks of DM swell as the year goes on, I think this will begin to make DM what it should be. Any DM that doesn't spend 12.5k is not doing much for Delta bottom line. I spend about 30-40k annually so no worry. I think 90% DMs have nothing to worry about.

Folks here just can't stand change.

bubbashow Jan 17, 2013 9:30 am


Originally Posted by liuenci (Post 20066988)
I applause Delta for doing this. As a high rev customer who has seen the ranks of DM swell as the year goes on, I think this will begin to make DM what it should be. Any DM that doesn't spend 12.5k is not doing much for Delta bottom line. I spend about 30-40k annually so no worry. I think 90% DMs have nothing to worry about.

Folks here just can't stand change.

^

Just the gamers are freaking out. Think about it as you grind your way to IST again this weekend telling everyone how important you are. LOL

Builderman Jan 17, 2013 9:30 am


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20066987)
I quoted the wrong text. It was about the 006 rebook onto 057/074 stock during IRROPS.

The spend is still on 006 stock in that case. Ludicrous.

Sure. Reissuing should not be a problem.

But there are still reasons to want to ticket AF/KL onto their own stock, which we won't be able to do anymore :(

BobRoss Jan 17, 2013 9:30 am

MQD:
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...n-dollars.html

FAQ:
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...lars-faqs.html

This should probably be re-posted by a mod and made a sticky, as I bet lots of folks will ask these questions over and over

Dieuwer Jan 17, 2013 9:31 am

Apart from 057/074, don't forget 027 ;)

I love it how AS MP members can earn status by buying DL ticket stock, but DL SM members cannot earn status (MQDs) by buying AS ticket stock. How Machiavellian.

pbarnette Jan 17, 2013 9:31 am


Originally Posted by dieuwer2 (Post 20066951)
You will earn MQDs only when either condition is satisfied:
  • Buy a ticket on a DL-marketed flight.
  • Buy a ticket (through a DL channel) with a ticket number start with #006.

You will NOT earn MQDs:
  • Buying certain specialty tickets, including but not limited to unpublished, consolidator, group/tour and opaque fare products
  • Buying a ticket on a stock number that does NOT start with #006. Example: if you buy an AF ticket on the airfrance.us website starting with ticket #057 you will not earn MQDs.

The bolded portion is incorrect. You need to change it to read: "Buying a ticket for flights marketed by another carrier when that ticket does NOT start with #006."

bubbashow Jan 17, 2013 9:32 am


Originally Posted by Builderman (Post 20067010)
Sure. Reissuing should not be a problem.

But there are still reasons to want to ticket AF/KL onto their own stock, which we won't be able to do anymore :(

Rylan was posting that re-issue would lose MQD as well. Insanity.

Sez_Who Jan 17, 2013 9:32 am


Originally Posted by DwayneSkyMiles (Post 20065494)
Second, starting March 1, 2013 we are changing a few of the MQM bonus levels on certain fares. F and J class fares will increase to a 100% MQM bonus and M class fares will no longer receive an MQM bonus. Y and B fares will remain at the current level, receiving a 50% MQM bonus. This change will go into effect for Delta-marketed flights for any purchases on or after March 1 and for OA with travel flown on or after March 1, 2013.

So much for getting work done today. :D

Thanks for the post, Dwayne, and thanks for posting the FAQ. Lots of answers there but still many questions.

I understand that M fare purchases after 3/1/13 will no longer have the 50% MQM bonus. What if the purchase is made prior to 3/1 for a flt in, say, April (or December, for that matter)? It sounds like you are saying that M fare purchases on or before 3/1 will still qualify for the 50% bonus but it would be nice if you can confirm that.

Also, what if I am on a DL flt that is canceled, with re-booking on some other carrier with no 006 stock. Would this still qualify for MQM's based on Original Routing Credit rules?

bpe Jan 17, 2013 9:33 am


Originally Posted by tkey75 (Post 20066852)
What partners (that matter) other than KE have been gutted? AF, KL, and AZ all stay the same. VA actually goes up.

Well, what partners 'matter' to you all depends on where and how you fly. I haven't checked all partners, but the only ones going up or staying the same seem to be AF, KL, AZ, VA, and AS.

CJKatl Jan 17, 2013 9:33 am


Originally Posted by hnewman (Post 20066983)
Do they? and did DL think that through?

Right now, if you have two people on the same PNR, each gets MQM and MQS credit for his/her BIS travel. Why should it be any different for the spend? It's not as though there is some magic formula for the fare, based on the two seats. Each seat is priced, and the cost is the sum of the two, so DL clearly has the individual fare price available. I'm not seeing where anything would possibly be different with MQDs.


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