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flyertalk77 Jan 17, 2013 8:20 am


Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter (Post 20066189)
Ancillary purchases or fees including but not limited to checked baggage fees, Economy Comfort™ seat purchases, Priority Boarding, Delta Sky Club® memberships, Wi-Fi passes, in-flight food and beverage purchases, in-flight entertainment, unaccompanied minor fees, pet travel fees, Mileage Booster™, ticket change fees, Direct Ticketing Charge (DTC), Same Day Confirmed Fee, Administrative Service Charge (ASC), External Reissue Charge (ERC), and Standby Upgrades purchased at the gate, do not count toward earning MQDs.

The extraneous fees that moved DL from the red to the black do not produce MQD credit for the consumer. Hmmmm...

I guess this makes sense. There are trying to incentive the one area where they have not figured out how to make money... putting butts in seats and flying them from point A to point B. ;)

:)

Any bets that Delta will make MQDs available for purchase in December of 2014?

Medeski Jan 17, 2013 8:21 am


Originally Posted by timmy83 (Post 20066319)
Does not affect tickets purchased now. First tickets to be affected will be for flights flown after 1/1/14. Still >330 days away

Except for the MQM earning on M fares and any partner flights which take effect on 3/1/13

Teamstone Jan 17, 2013 8:21 am

Hopefully, in 2013 they will post on the profile page what your spend is for the year so that you can trend for a year before it goes live.

bubbashow Jan 17, 2013 8:21 am


Originally Posted by aubreyfromwheaton (Post 20066324)
This doesn't seem like that big a deal to me except for the MQM earning on partners which will require caution.

I bet nearly everyone on here spends or can easily spend $25k on a DL cc.

Aubrey...if they can't or they aren't meeting the spending requirement, they are hard-pressed to argue that they are a benefit to DL.

javabytes Jan 17, 2013 8:21 am


Originally Posted by flyertalk77 (Post 20066342)
:)

Any bets that Delta will make MQDs available for purchase in December of 2014?

You'll probably just be able to buy them at a 1:1 rate. Need 2,000 MQD? That'll be $2,000 please. Forget donating to charity, donate to DL.

pbarnette Jan 17, 2013 8:22 am


Originally Posted by exwannabe (Post 20066309)
If I can butt in, I think java's post that you objected to was written ambiguously and you miss-interpreted him. The qualifier "partner flights" was intended to apply to then entire sentence, not just the first clause.

That is entirely possible. I was just going by what was written and what was written was definitely that only 006 stock tickets, without qualification of that statement. If what you describe is what was meant to be said, then I encourage java to go back and edit his post.

I'm just tired of the hyperbole and the way it results in misunderstandings and misinformation for those that might pop in. People should be careful about their language when making declarative statements like java's.

CJKatl Jan 17, 2013 8:22 am


Originally Posted by aubreyfromwheaton (Post 20066324)
This doesn't seem like that big a deal to me except for the MQM earning on partners which will require caution.

I bet nearly everyone on here spends or can easily spend $25k on a DL cc.

What an absolutely baseless assumption. Many of us use corporate cards for most of our travel, and my mortgage company, car loan company and neighborhood gas station do not take AmEx. Other than those things, I don't spend anywhere near $25k/year, nor could I possible even think of being that wasteful.

Having money and spending money are two very different things. People who appreciate the difference will likely not have $25k/year charge card spends without business travel, mortgage or car note payments.

StayingHomeIsBetter Jan 17, 2013 8:22 am


Originally Posted by flyertalk77 (Post 20066342)
:)

Any bets that Delta will make MQDs available for purchase in December of 2014?

Makes one wonder what the exchange rate will be between USD and MQD...

:D:D

nogophers Jan 17, 2013 8:22 am

For me, 2012 consisted of 14 ticket purchases totalling $8,300, or about $590 on average. Flew less than 50k last year, but made gold w/rollover. Should easily meet the MQD threshhold.

That being said, this is pretty confusing.

bennos Jan 17, 2013 8:23 am

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced the end goal here is not about treating "our best customers" better, or rewarding higher end spenders -- it's about driving incremental revenue from the lower spenders (not necessarily getting rid of them).
  • If you buy paid F/J, you most likely don't care.
  • If you buy cheapest available on any carrier, you most likely don't care.
  • And furthermore, your extra purchases (EC, etc) don't count.
  • If you're a high spend low elite (eg: FO on last minute tickets), DL is doing nothing for you. Even if you posit that there are fewer elites ahead of you on the UG list, you're still subject to FCM draining V/Z inventory and you still don't get services like SkyPriority.


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20066096)
PB.....face it...this is a VERY-generous outreach by DL and provides the MOST-BASIC minimum spend.

If folks aren't reaching status with the outlined spend, there is NOTHING elite about their travel habits.

Perhaps if you only ever buy DL coded flights. Half of my paid J travel last year was on AF coded flights, meaning about 10k of MQM with $0 MQD equivalent even though they were JV flights.


Originally Posted by reef58 (Post 20066108)
It still doesn't do any of that. I spend enough to be a Diamond, but my miles are FO. Under the new plan I will still be an FO. How does that reward me?

It doesn't.


Originally Posted by dcsnowwake (Post 20066240)
so you spend 12k but only fly like 25k miles, your s**** to Delta?

More like you already generate sufficient cash, DL doesn't need to incentivize you.

So at the end of the day, while I could requalify for DM under the new plan, I'm going to put exactly 0 effort into making sure that I do.

DCAproducer Jan 17, 2013 8:23 am


Originally Posted by hazelrah (Post 20066185)
Credit card tie-ins trump elites appears to be the trend. I guess it should not surprise us that airlines
want to be extra cozy with and close to their food source.

I think they just want to make money. I can't fault them for that.
With that said, if they suddenly changed CC companies we'd all be up s$@t creek.

When you get down to it, this isn't a huge deal for many of us.

Can't wait to see the First Class mileage runs ;-)

roknroll Jan 17, 2013 8:23 am

OUCH, not including the taxes is a major obstacle. A quick look at some past reservations show around 13%-16% of the fare is taxes. That means that we will need closer to $0.12 per MQM to meet the spending thresholds.

Total spend for me will actually need to be around:
$2,900
$5,900
$8,800
$15,000

Without doing mileage runs and flying a mix of low and mid level fares last year, I hit DM with about $10k in spend. It also included two AS flights (to HI and SEA), so take those out and I would have barely qualified for PM.

Would be really nice if Dwayne could let us know the reasoning behind reducing M class earnings... hopefully they will be reducing international M fares to make SWU use more in line iwth the other airlines.

CJKatl Jan 17, 2013 8:24 am


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20066356)
Aubrey...if they can't or they aren't meeting the spending requirement, they are hard-pressed to argue that they are a benefit to DL.

Agreed, but for BIS travelers who also have benefit to DL, although probably less benefit than the Amex spenders.

CJKatl Jan 17, 2013 8:25 am


Originally Posted by roknroll (Post 20066380)
OUCH, not including the taxes is a major obstacle.

For me, it is, unfortunately, not including change fees that is upsetting. I probably do $3k in change fees per year. (2 changes per month, not including those where DL has waived the change.)

timmy83 Jan 17, 2013 8:26 am


Originally Posted by Medeski (Post 20066350)
Except for the MQM earning on M fares and any partner flights which take effect on 3/1/13

If history is any indication, this will not be announced anywhere.


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