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-   Delta Air Lines | SkyMiles (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles-665/)
-   -   The Official Medallion Qualification Update Thread (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1428771-official-medallion-qualification-update-thread.html)

pbarnette Jan 17, 2013 7:46 am
Originally Posted by hazelrah (Post 20065958)
Is the net effect to drive travelers to Delta metal?

If so, not exactly promoting a healthy alliance.
The bifurcation of alliances between those inside and those outside JVs is an industry-wide trend. In the absence of a JV, DL doesn't have an overwhelming interest in having you fly Korean Air.

gplates Jan 17, 2013 7:47 am
will YQ fuel surcharge count towards MQD ????

DLdweeb Jan 17, 2013 7:48 am
Originally Posted by hazelrah (Post 20065958)
If so, not exactly promoting a healthy alliance.
The SkyTeam alliance had some serious issues before this announcement, and this certainly will not help...

Builderman Jan 17, 2013 7:48 am
Originally Posted by dcsnowwake (Post 20066034)
the end of milage runs as we know it :(
Well that was sort of the point.

exwannabe Jan 17, 2013 7:48 am
Originally Posted by Winkdaddy (Post 20065996)
I was wondering that as well...Dwayne can you clarify?
They were very clear in stating the EARNINGS rules change 1/1/2014. Since nobody is acruing MQDs this year, they obviously are not needed for status year 3/14-2/15.

pbarnette Jan 17, 2013 7:49 am
Originally Posted by rylan (Post 20065991)
Then show me where booking AF/KL tickets gets you MQDs. Oh wait, they don't. Sure there are some DL codeshares if you want a simple flight to AMS or CDG. Want a more complicated ticket or to go someplace else? DL.bomb isn't capable, but af/kl is... and then you don't get credit.
That isn't at all what you said.

I will repeat my request that you correct the patently false information in your post (hint, you bolded it to ensure that you were emphatically wrong) and add a request that you not now try to obfuscate the fact that your information is incorrect by bringing up scenarios that are unrelated to your claim.

pbarnette Jan 17, 2013 7:50 am
Originally Posted by gplates (Post 20066042)
will YQ fuel surcharge count towards MQD ????
Yes. This is explicitly noted in the FAQ. Only government-required taxes and fees are excluded.

c_d Jan 17, 2013 7:50 am
Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20065993)
The purchase is still 006 stock.
Doubtful, does it clearly say purchase here: "MQDs are the total of the SkyMiles member’s spend on Delta-marketed flights (flight numbers that include the “DL” airline code), inclusive of the base fare and applicable surcharges, but exclusive of government- imposed taxes and fees.
Flight spend for travel on other airlines ticketed through a Delta channel (featuring a ticket number beginning with “006”) will also be included in MQDs."

Or does it signify "ticketed" (oh wait, its 074) or does it clearly state "DL" flight numbers (Oh wait, a re-issue to KLM features KL-coded flights).

I also challenge your following statement:

Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20065945)
My recent KL purchases (KL coded/KL operated/KL.com purchased) have all been 006 stock.
My recent KL purchases have been, surprisingly, all in 074 stock ... :rolleyes: What proof can you provide for KLM strangely starting to ticket in another airline's stock?

tkey75 Jan 17, 2013 7:50 am
Originally Posted by gplates (Post 20066042)
will YQ fuel surcharge count towards MQD ????
Everything in the fare except actual taxes counts towards MQD. YQ is not a tax.

javabytes Jan 17, 2013 7:51 am
A big :td:. DL SM members get fleeced once again. Rollover is now meaningless. Partner MQMs are gutted, and only 006 stock counts towards MQD.

Also, good luck buying tickets through OTAs:

Certain specialty tickets, including but not limited to unpublished, consolidator, group/tour and opaque fare products will not count toward MQDs.

bubbashow Jan 17, 2013 7:53 am
Originally Posted by pbarnette (Post 20065932)

Absolutely, 100% wrong.

I do appreciate your attempts to crank the hyperbole up to 11, but I have to ask you to correct what is patently false information.
PB.....face it...this is a VERY-generous outreach by DL and provides the MOST-BASIC minimum spend.

If folks aren't reaching status with the outlined spend, there is NOTHING elite about their travel habits.

pbarnette Jan 17, 2013 7:53 am
Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 20066086)
only 006 stock counts towards MQD.
That is incorrect.

People need to stop with the misinformation. I suspect that the misinformation is due to rash, overly-emotional outbursts in the heat of the moment, but it is misinformation nonetheless and is a disservice to the community.

reef58 Jan 17, 2013 7:54 am
It still doesn't do any of that. I spend enough to be a Diamond, but my miles are FO. Under the new plan I will still be an FO. How does that reward me? I admit I am not a high value customer, but likely spend more than most golds, some platinum and diamonds.

Originally Posted by PRWeezer (Post 20065879)
Jeff Robertson is quoted: "Adding a revenue component to the SkyMiles Medallion program ensures that our most valued customers receive the best program benefits and a more exclusive experience."

Back when I first earned medallion status in the late '90s certain fare codes were not upgrade eligible (LUT IIRC). In other words, there was a revenue component - an incentive to spend more money if you wanted to 'receive the best program benefits.' Today, a GM or above on an award ticket can be upgraded...not so exclusive any more. :eek:

bubbashow Jan 17, 2013 7:54 am
Originally Posted by c_d (Post 20066073)
Doubtful, does it clearly say purchase here: "MQDs are the total of the SkyMiles member’s spend on Delta-marketed flights (flight numbers that include the “DL” airline code), inclusive of the base fare and applicable surcharges, but exclusive of government- imposed taxes and fees.
Flight spend for travel on other airlines ticketed through a Delta channel (featuring a ticket number beginning with “006”) will also be included in MQDs."

Or does it signify "ticketed" (oh wait, its 074) or does it clearly state "DL" flight numbers (Oh wait, a re-issue to KLM features KL-coded flights).

I also challenge your following statement:



My recent KL purchases have been, surprisingly, all in 074 stock ... :rolleyes: What proof can you provide for KLM strangely starting to ticket in another airline's stock?

I'm just looking at DL dot com. It shows 006 stock for my past KL flights. I know I bought it through KL.com. Just reflecting what is on my account activity.

Builderman Jan 17, 2013 7:56 am
Originally Posted by reef58 (Post 20066108)
It still doesn't do any of that. I spend enough to be a Diamond, but my miles are FO. Under the new plan I will still be an FO. How does that reward me? I admit I am not a high value customer, but likely spend more than most golds, some platinum and diamonds.
It thins the herd of elites ahead of you?


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