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bpe Jan 17, 2013 10:48 am


Originally Posted by BER Flyer (Post 20067611)
I'm still confused: do i earn MQD's on a 057/074 ticket when the flight has an DL coded flight number ( and to make it worse even is DL operated )? From the website it sounds i always get MQD`s when
- the ticket starts with 006 ( dosen't matter what flight number or who operates the flight ) AND
- on other ticket stock as long as the flight is DL marketed ( has a DL Flight number ).

How would one determine how many MQDs are being earned on a non-006 ticket with some DL segments?

For instance, suppose I fly AMS -(KL)- JFK -(DL)- PIT on a KLM ticket that I paid $700 for, with the JFK-PIT segment on a DL flight number. I'm assuming that it would be some amount 'paid' by KLM to Delta for the JFK-PIT segment, but how much?

There will be people will be wanting to earn every MQD that they can (as they do with MQM or even RDM now) and I'd thing that being able to know this sort of thing ahead of time would be somewhat important, but I just can't see how it would be implemented.

BER Flyer Jan 17, 2013 10:52 am


Originally Posted by rylan (Post 20067724)
I guess we're interpreting it differently... or I'm not seeing how DL's system will be able to track your spend on the individual DL segment of a ticket that is booked on another airlines stock.

If you have a 074 with a bunch of KL flights and one DL coded segment, how do they assign the 'cost' to that when its all lumped together? Prorated based on distance?

That's why i asked for clarification: DL's website sounds like i WILL get MQD's as long as the flight is "DL marketed" which they interprete as "got an DL flight number". That sentence on the website does read as it has to be a 006 ticket.

hazelrah Jan 17, 2013 10:53 am


Originally Posted by Harlem (Post 20067767)
As a DM who hasn't been upgraded in over a month and was 16 of 46 on my last flight, I wish the MQD levels were much higher.

If everyone is elite then no one is......

Question of cause and effect. Is it the swelled ranks of elites or the fact that Delta is selling upgrades, or perhaps a combination?

I'd have to agree with other posters that if you expect this change to increase you upgrade chances I think you'll be dissapointed.

TeamInTheSky Jan 17, 2013 10:54 am

Foreign Person
 
I am a GM US citizen residing in the UK. I read it that I am exempt from the new MQD right now right? Any thoughts?

This is my first year as a GM, and I am most disappointed by the new MQM earning on other airlines. While half of my flying a year is done on AF / KL (other half on DL), I was hoping to branch out and take other SkyTeam carriers now that I would have access to their lounges and Sky Priority. However, I guess I will just choose AF / KL flying east from now on.

BER Flyer Jan 17, 2013 10:55 am


Originally Posted by bpe (Post 20067776)
How would one determine how many MQDs are being earned on a non-006 ticket with some DL segments?

For instance, suppose I fly AMS -(KL)- JFK -(DL)- PIT on a KLM ticket that I paid $700 for, with the JFK-PIT segment on a DL flight number. I'm assuming that it would be some amount 'paid' by KLM to Delta for the JFK-PIT segment, but how much?

There will be people will be wanting to earn every MQD that they can (as they do with MQM or even RDM now) and I'd thing that being able to know this sort of thing ahead of time would be somewhat important, but I just can't see how it would be implemented.

I'm asking myself the same thing, that's why i asked that question here. It surely reads that way on the website. Hopefuly a DL reader will either clarify this or add an explanation to the published FAQ's on the website.

tfc3rid Jan 17, 2013 10:55 am


Originally Posted by roknroll (Post 20067581)
It's not spending $25k, it's just moving money that is already spent to the DL CC instead of through other forms of payment.

True but in my case, my Apartment Complex does not take Amex as a payment source... I would never hit the 25K anyway because I'm a Dave Ramsey 'credit cards are evil' guy...

DelrayChris Jan 17, 2013 10:56 am


Originally Posted by Harlem (Post 20067767)
As a DM who hasn't been upgraded in over a month and was 16 of 46 on my last flight, I wish the MQD levels were much higher.

If everyone is elite then no one is......

DL allows everyone to be elite by selling everything. Perhaps they could create a new elite program:

- BIS miles only
- No purchasing of MQM to help get status
- No selling of benefits given to elites (e.g., SkyPriority)
- No roll over
- Must meet MQD/MQS/MQM each calendar year
- No credit card credit given towards the above

ptcflyer Jan 17, 2013 10:57 am

I am rightfully the target of the MQD requirement. I have been Platinum for 7 years and Diamond for 3 years and have never spent more than $5-6 k in any one year.

For 2013, I am platinum spending less than $1 k after using all of my IDB certs.

Looks like the game will still be on with my Reserve card and $25 k spend. I have always had a delta card with lots of spend.

For a while there, I had my finger on the Amex speed dial to cancel my card. Looks like I may keep it a while longer.

Delta is so addicted to Amex that they can not fire their absolutely worst customers.

Winkdaddy Jan 17, 2013 10:57 am


Originally Posted by hazelrah (Post 20067835)
Question of cause and effect. Is it the swelled ranks of elites or the fact that Delta is selling upgrades, or perhaps a combination?

I'd have to agree with other posters that if you expect this change to increase you upgrade chances I think you'll be dissapointed.

I think this will thin the ranks of the marginal FO's and GM's for sure...it will make a lot of customers start shopping on price/cheapest carrier alone rather then trying to spend enough on Delta to make FO/GM.

Ooompa Loompa Jan 17, 2013 10:57 am


Originally Posted by y2k1jetta (Post 20067768)
All they want is your money. That's what shareholders require.

They are a business, I certainly can't fault them for that.

FlyDeltaJets87 Jan 17, 2013 10:58 am


Originally Posted by bpe (Post 20067776)
How would one determine how many MQDs are being earned on a non-006 ticket with some DL segments?

For instance, suppose I fly AMS -(KL)- JFK -(DL)- PIT on a KLM ticket that I paid $700 for, with the JFK-PIT segment on a DL flight number. I'm assuming that it would be some amount 'paid' by KLM to Delta for the JFK-PIT segment, but how much?

There will be people will be wanting to earn every MQD that they can (as they do with MQM or even RDM now) and I'd thing that being able to know this sort of thing ahead of time would be somewhat important, but I just can't see how it would be implemented.

Even more complicated is the Joint Venture agreement. What I wonder is what will happen with code-share partners, both Skyteam and non-Skyteam, and other tickets involving a transfer of airlines where the airline isn't even a code-share partner.

BHArt Jan 17, 2013 10:58 am

One other question, and under MQD I'm guessing it wouldn't qualify, but would VDB usage count towards MQD?

exwannabe Jan 17, 2013 10:59 am


Originally Posted by tfc3rid (Post 20067856)
True but in my case, my Apartment Complex does not take Amex as a payment source... I would never hit the 25K anyway because I'm a Dave Ramsey 'credit cards are evil' guy...

Credit cards are only "evil" for those without self restraint, for the rest of us they are a 2% discount on everything we buy.

Harlem Jan 17, 2013 11:00 am


Originally Posted by hazelrah (Post 20067835)
Question of cause and effect. Is it the swelled ranks of elites or the fact that Delta is selling upgrades, or perhaps a combination?

I'd have to agree with other posters that if you expect this change to increase you upgrade chances I think you'll be dissapointed.

I've always assumed that selling upgrades is one reason for my lack of upgrades, but when there are at least 16 DMs on one flight (who knows how many cleared at the window and how many were behind me on the list) and there are 46 people with status then it seems that there are too many elites.

My upgrade percentages are much better in March than they are in Feb (for obvious reasons) and so I think the selling of upgrades is only part of my problem.

Because the $12,500 level is so small (and the $25k exemption is so small) I would guess these new restrictions won't bring much change in the amount of DMs nor will they bring me much better chances at an upgrade.

Deltahater Jan 17, 2013 11:01 am


Originally Posted by pbarnette (Post 20067149)
Incorrect.



DL defines "marketed" as carrying a DL code. This is explicitly spelled out in the FAQ.

Seriously people. STOP POSTING INCORRECT INFORMATION.

Do you work for DL or what is your beef here? You seem to be very emotionally engaged here


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