There is no impact to gifted status.

Anybody who gets medallion without flying (1) isn't competing with me for upgrades, so I don't care; and (2) is spending lots of money on Amex so won't have any problems with MQD.

On my planet, "elite" is defined by qualify, not quantity.

The ticket would no longer be on 006 stock. It depends on the exact wording of the policy; the website can be interpreted either way.

Will purchases of MQMs qualify for MQDs?

What does "should" have to do with DL? I've seen different fares for the same flight depending on which airlines it's purchased through.

It still allows that for Amex cardholders.

Yes, it does. I spend enough on Amex that I don't care about MQD, but MQMs are important.

Because they aren't. Those with enough spend (or Amex) still care about rollovers.

Yes

Looks like the value of GM via CB gifting just went up...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...140000338.html

LOL, "one of the longest-running and most successful", what are they smoking?

This will surely clean house. Maybe everyone surviving this in 2015 will be getting upgrades more frequently compared to now. I suppose for all of those who are force to pay an arm & leg to fly out of spoke airports will get an advantage too. For each trip, I have to slug an extra $250-400 to fly out of my hometown airport OR drive four hours.

Ok, one thing puzzles me.

I completely understand the rational for MQDs. The fact is, the low MQD (non AX) flyer is not valued enough to get the status. One can debate the issue, but the motive seams obvious.

On partner devaluation, it is hard to understand how all the inter-ST (and other partner) ecconomics play out. So let's just assume that makes sense.

Pushing AX, that is a real cash stream so no need to discuss.

But the M fare reduction? I fail to understand. This has got to be a DL cash cow. There almost certainly has to be more news here (dream of lower M fares, fear a sLUT reduction).

Notice that that they said "Updating" versus "Upgrading" ;)

Goodbye DL
 

Thank goodness I have lifetime status on other airlines. I kind of get why DL are doing this but it is the old old thing that getting new customers is a lot more difficult than retaining old loyal ones. And this sends some of that loyal group away. DL no doubt claim that they know what they are doing, but the truth is that no one in the airline business knows what they are doing. DL will no doubt go bankrupt again in the next decade or two as this is the nature of the beast.

As the programs get more complicated one has a tendency to abandon them. My wife just flew Southwest and loved them. I have not flown Southwest in two decades but of course I love them as they drive everyone else's fares. Also she had planned a trip last year and could not go, and she was able to use those funds 100% on her recent trip. None of this $150 change fee stuff. And two free bags. I can't imagine why anyone would fly the legacy airlines inside the US if they don't have status and don't have some corporation paying F fares..

And now my wife has a whole bunch of miles or whatever they are on Southwest so who is she going to fly next time? (Actually she just booked another trip). And the kids - they are not going to fly alone? And me if they are all going Southwest? That is the whole point of loyalty programs and what this DL move is doing is driving away not just mileage run geeks like everyone on this board, but whole families too. And all the people that the geeks speak to at dinner parties.

But for sure no one at DL will listen. And that is Corporate America for you as they draw salaries and bonuses of tens of millions and drive their companies into the grave multiple times.

Just saying! :rolleyes:

I would imagine not, considering this:

MQDs are the total of the SkyMiles member’s spend on Delta-marketed flights (flight numbers that include the “DL” airline code), inclusive of the base fare and applicable surcharges, but exclusive of government- imposed taxes and fees.

and this:

Ancillary purchases or fees including but not limited to checked baggage fees, Economy Comfort™ seat purchases, Priority Boarding, Delta Sky Club® memberships, Wi-Fi passes, in-flight food and beverage purchases, in-flight entertainment, unaccompanied minor fees, pet travel fees, Mileage Booster™, ticket change fees, Direct Ticketing Charge (DTC), Same Day Confirmed Fee, Administrative Service Charge (ASC), External Reissue Charge (ERC), and Standby Upgrades purchased at the gate, do not count toward earning MQDs.

yes, and again, why does it matter if you're just going to get it gifted to you again the next year. if you want to keep the status, you have to earn it, anyway, if you don't have it gifted to you the following year

But if you are a MM (or above) you should keep them as "Annual Complimentary Status" is exempt from the MQD limits.

Hmmm, so is gifted status -- I see a market for PM's and DM's to gift to people who want to keep their rollover... :)

Added: I just read the fine print and while you don't need the spend for the status, you do need the spend (or Amex) for rollover. Probably same for gifted.

It's a good start, But...
 

Overall, I like to propose changes. However, I think the threshold dollars need to be higher especially Diamond*.

*$20,000 should be the minimum in my opinion.

The birthplace of Crony Capitalism.

Thank you - its my life's work, beating that story down, one telling at a time.

Wasn't there another thread earlier today in which the only change seemed to be to earning status by segments? Since I'm too lazy to ready all the pages, could someone please answer with a short "yes" or "no"?

1. Will 25.000 miles be enough for Silver in 2014?

2. Do this changes have any effect on my chances to get Silver in 2014 (I am European and live in Europe)?

Thank you :)