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Originally Posted by gregman858
(Post 20067958)
As a leisure flyer, this new announcement hurts. However, since I already have the Platinum Card and typically spend close to $25,000 a year, this will not affect me as much as those who do not have the card.
The card does, however, also help me to gain status with the 10,000 MQM bonus at the $25,000 spending threshold. If Delta and AMEX get rid of this bonus, there really wouldn't be a point for me to fly Delta. I am currently a Gold Medallion and do fly the cheap fares to gain status, along with having the Platinum Card. If Delta and AMEX were to remove the 10,000 MQM bonus, it would be too difficult to gain status and I would likely drop the card and Delta. Does anyone have any information if the MQM bonus will still be valid? |
Given the way this is playing out, I must say... nice ad placement!
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Originally Posted by readywhenyouare
(Post 20068219)
Can someone clarify something for me. If you travel for work and your company pays for the ticket does that count toward your MQD?
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Originally Posted by pbarnette
(Post 20068215)
I can't imagine that this will create any more ill will than the opaque earnings on codeshares among *A carriers.
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I think it would have been wiser to implement MQD only for the upper tiers, but keep at least Silver as MQM/MQS only.
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Originally Posted by pbarnette
(Post 20068201)
One nuance that might be worth commenting on would be how many of your MQMs are "consumed" if you don't hit the threshold. Consider the following scenario: I end 2014 with 125k MQMs, but only enough spend to qualify as PM.
Do I keep 50k miles as rollover, or do the MQMs reset as if the spend doesn't count? For many, rollover isn't going to help anymore. It's either going to remain unchanged for some, or be obsolete/irrelevant for some. What good is 50k in rollover when you still need to spend $5k the following year on air travel to use those MQM's? Chances are you'd qualify for GM anyway without the rollover after spending $5k. |
Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter
(Post 20066510)
In fairness, I want to give DL management credit for announcing this ahead of time. ^
No one (except, perhaps, those formally believing they could ride their MQM carryover into the next decade) will be in a position where the program change will invalidate already made spending decisions. As I read it, we all will have the balance of 2013 to think about whether we stay with the DL program in 2014 to qualify for our status in 2015. . I don't think this will impact me but it might impact my wife who I don't think spent $5000 to reach her 51,000 MQM total last year. One thing that is at least inconvenient for me - and probably for everyone - is I wish it was just raw spend with Delta. Including taxes and drinks and upgrade fees and everything. Because my credit card company (and Quicken) can tell me how much I spent with one vendor, but can't tell me how much I spent on the subcategories. Also when I evaluate ticket prices, I look at the total price not the subtotals. If I need 1000 more MQD's it would be nice to be able to buy a $1001 ticket and know it had me covered. |
I have qualified for gold last two years - thanks to a good chunk of rollover or bonus MQM's. I ran some numbers, just to see how this change would have impacted qualification status:
2011 33,720 BIS MQM's 30,000 CC MQM's 6,725 RO MQM's $6822 MQD's (all-inclusive - even backing out 10% for tax would be >$6K) 2012 33,717 BIS MQM's 20,445 RO MQM's $6585 MQD's (same stipulation on tax) I fly mostly domestic, look for reasonable fees - work requires we take lowest available, so not often flying with high $$ tix. Realize there are a lot of different patterns - but my data would indicate MQD's won't have horrific impact on elite level qualification. Big roll-over miles a different story, of course. |
I don't doubt that the 2014 program was put out this early was partially to see what the most common complaints/concerns/confusions are. No doubt that there will be some tweeking and or changes to what is currently published because of it.
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Originally Posted by OldRoyal
(Post 20068238)
"In addition, beginning March 1, 2013, we will adjust the Medallion Qualification Miles (MQMs) you earn on select fares when flying Delta and our partner airlines. To learn more about earning MQMs, visit delta.com."[/B]
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Originally Posted by dieuwer2
(Post 20068380)
Wow, I missed that one. Now we need to know what "select fares" are.
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Originally Posted by apwessen
(Post 20067111)
Do you actually travel for work? In a normal travel week, I spend $500 on a flight, $400 on rental car, $400 on a hotel and $200 on food/entertainment. That's $1500 per week of travel all on the Delta AMEX. So if you just traveled two weeks a month, that's more than $25k. It's not irresponsible, it's actually traveling for work and being smart enough to stick to a single credit card.
So for me (and i am sure many others): $500/week on a flight through Corp Travel Agent and not on my CC $200/week on rental car charged to Corp AMEX (Green Card) $500/week on hotel charged to Corp AMEX (Green Card) $200/week on food/entertainment charged to Corp AMEX (Green Card) $1400/week spend, $0 spend on DL Coded AMEX |
Originally Posted by jascmil
(Post 20066666)
Agreed....... However, I think I was expecting the changes to the SkyMiles program to be much worse than this, so I generally find myself ambivalent.
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There should be outrage in corporate travel departments all across this country, are employees going to try and game their employers to take more expensive flight options to pad their dollars spent. I hope some large corporations stand up and take notice that this will cost them in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Spaceduck
(Post 20068317)
I think it would have been wiser to implement MQD only for the upper tiers, but keep at least Silver as MQM/MQS only.
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