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exwannabe Jan 17, 2013 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by GrizShel (Post 20068554)
Beware folks:
I think the above sentence in Delta's email does foreshadow the other changes they've longed for years to implement:
Slashed MQM earnings on the lower fare classes on Delta metal (not just partner airlines).
...

They have already posted these changes. All the tables (DL/ST and partners) have both pre and post 3/13 columns.

emrdoc Jan 17, 2013 12:14 pm

I like the changes...will hopefully thin the ranks of Diamonds.

cruiseguy Jan 17, 2013 12:14 pm

Time to look for a new program. Their last in awards availability as it stands and now to maintain gold I must spend at least $5,000 on tickets.

Any suggestions for BOS based non-business 50,000 + yearly flyer??

Cruiseguy

cruiseguy Jan 17, 2013 12:15 pm

Sorry - they're last ........

motytrah Jan 17, 2013 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20066909)
That simply isn't true. Look at your CC statements for any flight that was purchased to which this happened. The charge showing the ticket number still shows as 006.

Y'all are spreading false information just to stir the pot.

My observation is credit cards show the flight data at time of purchase and do not typically get updated when things get changed at the airport. It seems more likely to me they process the E-tickets as flown and use the fare calculations associated with the E-Ticket to determine class of service and spend. Example, reticketing sometimes results in a PAX getting full Y Miles and MQM.

That being said airlines get paid when they push you onto their metal by using the monies associated with the original ticket. (See NW B.U.M.P. program thread for interesting details). I would assume the fare calculation on an at airport reissue will net zero after consuming the original E-Ticket. I don't see DL IT being sophisticated enough to drill back to the original purchase, but the reissued ticket should be functionally similar to determine spend so long as the ticket stock is honored.

But what happens when you are forced outside the alliance? Example: You MX as DM or PM in NRT and they accommodate you on a JL or NH rather than have you stay overnight. Right now you have to contact DL to get original routing credit. What about the spending credit? I think we'll have to learn the phase Original Spending Credit now.

bubbashow Jan 17, 2013 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by Adelphos (Post 20068520)
I spent about $4K on flights for 20,000 MQMs (spread across a personal and a corporate card) in 2012 (I recently bought up to Silver). It seems very easy to hit the $2,500 spend to meeet FO status for a flyer that takes ~10 flights a year. I don't think this really thins the FO ranks.

I think this will thin the ranks dramatically. You have PMs and DMs on here achieving status for your spend.

That said, it is VERY easy to hit the 2500 spend. If you don't, there is nothing even remotely-"elite" about your spending patterns.

exwannabe Jan 17, 2013 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by FireEmblemPride (Post 20068572)
Skyteam got skyreamed...

Biggest disappointment for me is the gutting of Skyteam partner MQMs, particularly KE. I'm flying KE in a few minutes, actually, and look forward to my final opportunity to get 100% MQMs...

KE was such a good option given the lack of Japan-based carriers in Skyteam.

You can still fly them with full MQMs, just need DL coded flights.

pbarnette Jan 17, 2013 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by cruiseguy (Post 20068646)
Time to look for a new program. Their last in awards availability as it stands and now to maintain gold I must spend at least $5,000 on tickets.

Any suggestions for BOS based non-business 50,000 + yearly flyer??

Cruiseguy

Obviously it depends upon where you travel, but B6 is the obvious choice if you value nonstops.

For international travel, AA would be a good fall-back option with nonstops to Europe and Asia on OneWorld carriers.

gogreyhound Jan 17, 2013 12:19 pm

Let's face it, they have gotten a lot shiftier in ATL.
Most of us can remember the uproar when DL tried to slash the MQM credit on the insULT fares to 50 percent and ultimately backed off. Adding a spend threshold largely accomplishes the same thing but without directly denigrating an existing standard.

Seminole_Kev Jan 17, 2013 12:19 pm

I don't mind the spend value metric being introduced, but I wish it was without that clause of having to be Delta marketed, 006 ticketed, or whatever.

Typically I'd book AF travel (for example) through their website as I simply don't trust Delta to do me any favors with their website being a middleman in the deal.

*edit - Oh, and count me in as one of those with a Corporate AMEX that is locked in and cannot use towards it. I should be ok on spend relative to miles at least though.

gogreyhound Jan 17, 2013 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20068662)
That said, it is VERY easy to hit the 2500 spend.

That's VERY easy to say if you're not doing it on your own dime.

jfe Jan 17, 2013 12:22 pm

I missed gold this last year by less than 400 MQMs, and I was happy to just reach Silver and carry the 24,600 miles to this year.

Reaching the $2,500 was easy, actually, I spent more than the Gold qualification requirements.

This is going to affect those high end Medallions that do the mileage runs LAX-SYD-HKG-IAD-ATL-ELP-MOON-ATL-MSP-LAX for $50

motytrah Jan 17, 2013 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by emrdoc (Post 20068641)
I like the changes...will hopefully thin the ranks of Diamonds.

I don't see it happening. You still have MQMs from Amex spend. You still have the ability to buy MQMs. Someone can still do Silver or Gold BIS and get DM.

This targets MR folks (i.e. a good chunk of FTers)
This targets Folks who put their credit card spend into SPG or MemRewards.
This creates new avenues for DL to push people into additional Affinity revenue.

Jump Jan 17, 2013 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by GrizShel (Post 20068554)
Beware folks:
I think the above sentence in Delta's email does foreshadow the other changes they've longed for years to implement:
Slashed MQM earnings on the lower fare classes on Delta metal (not just partner airlines).

I haven't had an issue with anything I've seen in the announcement so far today as I spent $22k with Delta last year and over $70k on Delta Reserve AMEX. But this would be a game changer for me as my company only allows the purchase of LUT fares. No sense in worrying about it though.

JGfromOC Jan 17, 2013 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by seminole_kev (Post 20068681)
I don't mind the spend value metric being introduced, but I wish it was without that clause of having to be Delta marketed, 006 ticketed, or whatever.

Typically I'd book AF travel (for example) through their website as I simply don't trust Delta to do me any favors with their website being a middleman in the deal.

*edit - Oh, and count me in as one of those with a Corporate AMEX that is locked in and cannot use towards it. I should be ok on spend relative to miles at least though.

Sometimes booking via DL is better though. Got a discount biz ticket on AZ via DL.com for $3k less than what AZ had on their site. (AZ site updated to full J from the discounted S before I could buy. DL still had it)


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