“Shena”: The Definitive “Shenanigans” Thread
Jun 11, 2018, 7:12 pm
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I wonder how many people read the forum, and think - - WOW! That was ME on that flight! I was next on the UG list, and a nonrev snagged that seat from under me!
Jun 11, 2018, 8:18 pm
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I'm a bit in the dark WRT to DL policies on this, but how does an FA upgrade a nonrev? Are these nonrevs traveling in uniform; presumably on DL business? Or are they just nonrevs traveling on the company pass? Seems difficult to identify who is who without a uniform (yes, I know there are apps on the handheld). Presumably, if they can see nonrevs, the FAs can also see rev pax. That and it seems to me like DL would benefit from only one person, i.e. the GA controlling seat assignments as opposed to two, i.e. the GA and the FA.
The crew knows who the nonrevs are (per manifest) but they don't know the relative upgrade priorities of the paying passengers (multiple DMs, multiple PMs, and a GM who tried to use a RUC that he got last year as a PM).
Jun 11, 2018, 11:56 pm
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Maybe, maybe not ... why get worked up?
I was number 1 for 3 FC available at about T-90, MSP-ATL this AM, then dropped to 1 of 2 at T-30, then to 1 for 1 at t-25, then 1 for 0 at T20.
I was seated very close to the gate and I had many opportunities to approach the counter and ask if all 1st had checked in/ should I stay behind / or ponder #board-last .... but I didn't.
I boarded, and as 4D remained unoccupied until the very last pax boarded; (and since I was seated in the first row of C+), I had a good vantage point and overheard the pax mention something along the lines of "hey, I'm just lucky to get the seat" or something like that.
So what did I do about this possible SHENA situation?
Well, I'll tell you what I did....
Nothing.
The flight was under 2hrs, so I honestly couldn't care less, but after reading some of the posts in this thread, I wondered what others would think / do....
I was seated very close to the gate and I had many opportunities to approach the counter and ask if all 1st had checked in/ should I stay behind / or ponder #board-last .... but I didn't.
I boarded, and as 4D remained unoccupied until the very last pax boarded; (and since I was seated in the first row of C+), I had a good vantage point and overheard the pax mention something along the lines of "hey, I'm just lucky to get the seat" or something like that.
So what did I do about this possible SHENA situation?
Well, I'll tell you what I did....
Nothing.
The flight was under 2hrs, so I honestly couldn't care less, but after reading some of the posts in this thread, I wondered what others would think / do....
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Jun 12, 2018, 4:06 am
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I was number 1 for 3 FC available at about T-90, MSP-ATL this AM, then dropped to 1 of 2 at T-30, then to 1 for 1 at t-25, then 1 for 0 at T20.
I was seated very close to the gate and I had many opportunities to approach the counter and ask if all 1st had checked in/ should I stay behind / or ponder #board-last .... but I didn't.
I boarded, and as 4D remained unoccupied until the very last pax boarded; (and since I was seated in the first row of C+), I had a good vantage point and overheard the pax mention something along the lines of "hey, I'm just lucky to get the seat" or something like that.
So what did I do about this possible SHENA situation?
Well, I'll tell you what I did....
Nothing.
The flight was under 2hrs, so I honestly couldn't care less, but after reading some of the posts in this thread, I wondered what others would think / do....
I was seated very close to the gate and I had many opportunities to approach the counter and ask if all 1st had checked in/ should I stay behind / or ponder #board-last .... but I didn't.
I boarded, and as 4D remained unoccupied until the very last pax boarded; (and since I was seated in the first row of C+), I had a good vantage point and overheard the pax mention something along the lines of "hey, I'm just lucky to get the seat" or something like that.
So what did I do about this possible SHENA situation?
Well, I'll tell you what I did....
Nothing.
The flight was under 2hrs, so I honestly couldn't care less, but after reading some of the posts in this thread, I wondered what others would think / do....
Jun 12, 2018, 4:31 am
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The GA has absolute control until the door closes. After the door closes, the GA has no control.
The crew knows who the nonrevs are (per manifest) but they don't know the relative upgrade priorities of the paying passengers (multiple DMs, multiple PMs, and a GM who tried to use a RUC that he got last year as a PM).
The crew knows who the nonrevs are (per manifest) but they don't know the relative upgrade priorities of the paying passengers (multiple DMs, multiple PMs, and a GM who tried to use a RUC that he got last year as a PM).
Jun 12, 2018, 4:36 am
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Dl1984 aus-atl this morning. I am 2 for 0 seats as a diamond.
The guy guy originally seated in 14F was Number 5 on the list and a silver medallion (saw his boarding pass) and got upgraded to 1C.
The guy guy originally seated in 14F was Number 5 on the list and a silver medallion (saw his boarding pass) and got upgraded to 1C.
Jun 12, 2018, 7:15 am
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Jun 12, 2018, 7:33 am
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Jun 12, 2018, 4:24 pm
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Are you sure they can't see the priority for nonrevs on the internal web site? I believe it indicates the priority and the priority date; I don't know how much, if any, of that gets onto the manifest.
Jun 12, 2018, 4:33 pm
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I know that when the purser needs to ask a nonrev to move because a revenue passenger has a D1 seat that won't go flat or where the AVOD isn't working, cabin crew are able to determine which of the nonrevs in D1 has the lowest seniority and should be asked to move.
Jun 13, 2018, 8:41 am
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And that's what's amazing to me. If DL can provide nonrev info to Purser's/FA's on their priority, then there's no reason they can't provide upgrade priority data to them so they can pull up the next passenger on the list.
Jun 13, 2018, 12:13 pm
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Jun 13, 2018, 12:36 pm
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I think most passengers would have a problem with the airline if they were the rightful occupants of a First Class seat and learned that another passenger was told he can take it unless they protest. I don’t think people should have to tell someone to get out of their seat when the airline has 100% assigned seating.