The Gate Lice are coming... the GATE LICE are coming
Oct 22, 2014, 10:59 am
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In the latest MD and 717 flights I've taken, there have been a couple of announcements on the bin size difference between sides.
The problem, I think, is not really that, but absolutely everyone wanting to bring a bag onboard, and most people wanting to put it in the overhead bin. Heh, one does what one can.
The problem, I think, is not really that, but absolutely everyone wanting to bring a bag onboard, and most people wanting to put it in the overhead bin. Heh, one does what one can.
Personally, I've sized down to an 18" that fits in wheels first on any mainline jet.
Oct 22, 2014, 11:02 am
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Oct 22, 2014, 11:10 am
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If you have no structure, of course people are just going to go all over the place. Put in a couple Tensabarriers and everyone falls into line.
Oct 22, 2014, 11:55 am
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What's truly tacky is 140+ people standing so deep into the terminal that it creates a giant log jam at places like ATL.
DL owes us the human dignity of not having to say excuse me a dozen times to the gate lice as we try to make our way up to the boarding door.
Oct 22, 2014, 1:16 pm
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maybe they could create brightly colored boarding passes so its clear from a distance which group a person is in. Also makes it easier to pass people, as you know they are not in line to join with sky, just waiting as a z1/23.
Oct 22, 2014, 1:56 pm
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Oct 22, 2014, 3:28 pm
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Oct 22, 2014, 3:33 pm
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Oct 22, 2014, 3:33 pm
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Because choosing a travel partner isnt based only by boarding process... Kind of a silly question. That's a minor part of my decision making process. Just think, if Delta could improve their boarding process to the level of WN, they'd be an even better airline... And since you asked, I have been flying WN much more often. I find their schedule to certain cities to be much better and no CRJs, while flying me for hundreds less than Delta. Other times I find that paying more and flying a CRJ-700 on a non-stop is better than a connection on WN. I might even make A-List by end of year!
Oct 22, 2014, 4:32 pm
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I agree that the charge to check bags has created this problem. Medallions not checking bags is not the problem. It is the no status pax who are not in a hurry and used to check bags, but now don't in order to save money. If these people were allowed to check for free, then overhead space would not run short, and this mad dash would not happen.
That is the real difference between DL and WN. Boarding processes aside, even if you are the last person to board on WN, you can almost always still get your bag in the OH bin, because many pax take advantage of the free checked bags.
I still choose DL for the reasons MSPEconomist states, but it does seem that this problem really did come from the $ for checking bags
That is the real difference between DL and WN. Boarding processes aside, even if you are the last person to board on WN, you can almost always still get your bag in the OH bin, because many pax take advantage of the free checked bags.
I still choose DL for the reasons MSPEconomist states, but it does seem that this problem really did come from the $ for checking bags
Oct 22, 2014, 7:13 pm
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I agree that the charge to check bags has created this problem. Medallions not checking bags is not the problem. It is the no status pax who are not in a hurry and used to check bags, but now don't in order to save money. If these people were allowed to check for free, then overhead space would not run short, and this mad dash would not happen.
That is the real difference between DL and WN. Boarding processes aside, even if you are the last person to board on WN, you can almost always still get your bag in the OH bin, because many pax take advantage of the free checked bags.
I still choose DL for the reasons MSPEconomist states, but it does seem that this problem really did come from the $ for checking bags
That is the real difference between DL and WN. Boarding processes aside, even if you are the last person to board on WN, you can almost always still get your bag in the OH bin, because many pax take advantage of the free checked bags.
I still choose DL for the reasons MSPEconomist states, but it does seem that this problem really did come from the $ for checking bags
$25 for DM
$30 for PM
$35 for GM
$40 for FO
$50 for Kettle
all problems solved.
Last edited by Ysitincoach; Oct 22, 2014 at 7:21 pm
Oct 22, 2014, 8:04 pm
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Given a choice between WN and DL, where I have no status and get stuck in group 4+ for my aisle seat, I'd choose WN. I choose WN anyway for some flights when they have the best schedule or I may need to cancel.
But your description makes it clear you haven't flown WN for decades, so don't know that their boarding process works better than any of the other airlines wrt boarding in a calm, civilized manner. Not really fair to denigrate them when you're not familiar with their process.
But your description makes it clear you haven't flown WN for decades, so don't know that their boarding process works better than any of the other airlines wrt boarding in a calm, civilized manner. Not really fair to denigrate them when you're not familiar with their process.
Oct 22, 2014, 8:53 pm
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Agreed. What I've noticed about UA (and possibly others that I just haven't paid attention to) is that they have recognized that people are going to stand around and wait to board. AF is also good about this for US departures. So, they provide the structure for people to do that in an organized way, and people don't think twice about following it.
If you have no structure, of course people are just going to go all over the place. Put in a couple Tensabarriers and everyone falls into line.
If you have no structure, of course people are just going to go all over the place. Put in a couple Tensabarriers and everyone falls into line.
Oct 22, 2014, 9:03 pm
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I'm so glad they had this when I flew LH this summer. We were boarding a 747-8 at ORD, and all the lines stretched well out into the hallway. I couldn't hear the announcements but just followed the line when the First/Business (and maybe *G were included) line started moving. Of course, if I'd paid for one of the 8 F seats and got grouped in with 100+ J/*G passengers for boarding I wouldn't be too happy about that, but it's still better than a complete cluster.
Oct 22, 2014, 9:07 pm
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Actually I've never flown WN. I don't care whether their boarding process works "better" according to your criterion, I just don't like the numbered signs and ropes where people line up in chutes or holding pens. Nor do I want on board jokes and games, no seat assignments, no FC, with most trips exMSP connecting through MDW, etc. Also, I need to travel abroad regularly--and not to nearby foreign vacation destinations--so travel on WN does not work for me. I don't need to fly them to know that I don't want to do so.
Safe travels,
Doc