Bank of America Alaska Airlines card (2017 - 2024)

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Apr 26, 2017 | 9:01 pm
  #286  
Recently denied for Merrill and then given platinum plus visa for Alaska card. When they refused to move any credit line I cancelled the platinum plus. Proceeded to close one business account, reduce credit limit on other to $1000, and then product change existing sig to a travel rewards and reduced it $2000 cl. In total reduced CL by $10k. How long to wait until I reapply for personal sig card? Will recent activity kick me out of auto approval?
Apr 26, 2017 | 10:22 pm
  #287  
Quote: Is there a reason we shouldn't cancel the card as soon as the bonus posts to our AS account?
I try to keep all my cards (not just BOA) for at least 1 yr, so that it's not so obvious?

but i dont know if the banks really care. but that's what i try to do anyway...

it used to work for BOA but now they implement this no duplicate card rule which make things difficult...
Apr 27, 2017 | 5:13 pm
  #288  
Quote: Is there a reason we shouldn't cancel the card as soon as the bonus posts to our AS account?
If you wait til your AF posts after a year, you will receive another companion fare, and then you can cancel, get AF refund and keep that companion fare.

Not sure if they are any use to you, but they sell for like 150-200 on craigslist where I live.
Apr 27, 2017 | 5:32 pm
  #289  
Quote: If you wait til your AF posts after a year, you will receive another companion fare, and then you can cancel, get AF refund and keep that companion fare.

Not sure if they are any use to you, but they sell for like 150-200 on craigslist where I live.
I thought companion fare is tied to the AS CC? how do you sell it?

With the above, I would guess that even if you cancel CC, but your companion cert expiration is still 10 months ahead in future, then your cert is still valid despite the CC no longer in existence?
Apr 28, 2017 | 9:10 am
  #290  
Is the gravy train over? I've been churning this card for years and now am getting denials. Sometimes it said I was approved, but then I got letter saying it was a mistake and I was denied!

Is there some new strategy to getting approved, or is it all over?
Apr 28, 2017 | 9:44 am
  #291  
Quote: If you wait til your AF posts after a year, you will receive another companion fare, and then you can cancel, get AF refund and keep that companion fare.

Not sure if they are any use to you, but they sell for like 150-200 on craigslist where I live.
I don't see how this works on CL since you, the account holder with the cert, needs to book the flights from what I've read.
Apr 28, 2017 | 9:49 am
  #292  
Quote: I don't see how this works on CL since you, the account holder with the cert, needs to book the flights from what I've read.
Thats my understanding as well. Not sure how OP has achieved this
Apr 28, 2017 | 8:01 pm
  #293  
Quote: Is the gravy train over? I've been churning this card for years and now am getting denials. Sometimes it said I was approved, but then I got letter saying it was a mistake and I was denied!

Is there some new strategy to getting approved, or is it all over?
Since you provided no details, it's hard to come to a specific conclusion about what your issue is. But in case you're not aware of the "new" reality, here it is:

Do not even attempt to apply for an Alaska personal card if you still have one open, or if you closed it "too recently" (like in the last couple days). BofA no longer lets most people apply for another Alaska personal card if they already have one (or more) Alaska personal cards open (or very recently closed).

Do not close any BofA card if you haven't already lowered the credit limit to as low as possible as long ago as possible. Credit limit that is still on a BofA card when it's closed is "locked up" (and not available to new applications) for over a year. Credit limit that you explicitly reduce becomes available within months (but we can't be more specific than that). So reduce credit limit as possible after getting the card, rather the only when you're about to cancel it.

We don't know if you also have to close your previous Alaska business card before applying for the next one, because most people are doing that "proactively" ("just in case"), and because we don't get that many datapoints on Alaska business card churning.


So the "gravy train" has definitely slowed down, since the above limitations mean some people who used to apply for many cars a year are now forced to only apply for 2 or 3 cards a year "in the right order". But it's not over for those who slow down and keep up with the changing rules (by reading this thread regularly, not just when they run into a problem).
Apr 29, 2017 | 3:38 am
  #294  
If you have a personal Alaska card still open and try to apply again, and get the auto denial, is a hard pull done, or is the denial done without the hard pull?
Apr 29, 2017 | 9:03 am
  #295  
Quote: Do not even attempt to apply for an Alaska personal card if you still have one open, or if you closed it "too recently" (like in the last couple days). BofA no longer lets most people apply for another Alaska personal card if they already have one (or more) Alaska personal cards open (or very recently closed).
Probably good advice based on most of the DP's we have, but not an absolute.
Apr 30, 2017 | 11:37 am
  #296  
Quote: Probably good advice based on most of the DP's we have, but not an absolute.
Yep - got instant approval while another one was open a few weeks ago...
Apr 30, 2017 | 3:46 pm
  #297  
Quote: Probably good advice based on most of the DP's we have, but not an absolute.
I did say "most" in what you quoted. So I wasn't being absolute.

What someone who doesn't know what's likely does shouldn't be the same thing that someone who does know what's likely does. That's why my "advice" is stronger than the "evidence", because IMHO the "evidence" is "bad enough" even though not absolute.

Since BofA appears to also be counting inquiries more than in the past, I'm not sure how good an idea it is for most people to "try" to apply for a card when it's not at clear where you will be approved. (But that, of course, depends on what else they've been applying for.)

Quote: Yep - got instant approval while another one was open a few weeks ago...
Good for you, but that's neither proof that the same will happen to you the next time you try, nor proof that the same thing will happen to someone else. We already knew there were exceptions, but as I said "most" people get denied for a new personal AS card if they already have a personal AS card open.
May 1, 2017 | 7:57 am
  #298  
Does one have to call BoA to lower the credit limit?
May 1, 2017 | 10:01 am
  #299  
Quote: Does one have to call BoA to lower the credit limit?
Yes, there is no longer any way to contact BOA online. Phone is the only method. PITA having to call these days.
May 2, 2017 | 9:00 am
  #300  
Quote: Do not close any BofA card if you haven't already lowered the credit limit to as low as possible as long ago as possible. Credit limit that is still on a BofA card when it's closed is "locked up" (and not available to new applications) for over a year. Credit limit that you explicitly reduce becomes available within months (but we can't be more specific than that). So reduce credit limit as possible after getting the card, rather the only when you're about to cancel it.
Thanks for the information. I definitely cancelled my old cards before reapplying. But I was not aware of the credit limit thing. The denial letter said:

We could not approve your request because you have a sufficient number of accounts with us

We have another BoA (non-Alaska) card.
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