2013 App-O-Rama (AOR) and Churn Advice Archive
#1861
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
#1862
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 38
I would recommend adding 2 more cards to you AOR from the list below
USB - Club carlson - I am from CA and I got equifax pull
Barclays arrival - Usually TU pull
BOA cards - Virgin Atlantic - 50K offer or Alaska air - 25K - 40K offer
BOA/Chase/Citi pulled Experion for me.
So if you choose to apply for BOA card, apply for this last.
I recently did a AOR and was approved for 5 of 7.
USB - Club carlson - I am from CA and I got equifax pull
Barclays arrival - Usually TU pull
BOA cards - Virgin Atlantic - 50K offer or Alaska air - 25K - 40K offer
BOA/Chase/Citi pulled Experion for me.
So if you choose to apply for BOA card, apply for this last.
I recently did a AOR and was approved for 5 of 7.
#1863
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 757
There was a guy on FWF who was chasing 0% offers to fund his stock portfolio (not a choice I would make) that did something in the high teens to low twenties. I forget the total number, some one would mention an offer and he added it to the list. His conversion rate wasn't that great, especially since he was rolling over balances he already had (and thus had high utilization which impacted his score).
You taking on all 11 yourself or splitting with the spouse?
You taking on all 11 yourself or splitting with the spouse?
#1864
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 757
Would like some advice about applying for Hilton HHonors no fee Amex card after having gotten the Jetblue Amex card in January and Starwood SPG Amex personal in May. My score has dipped to 705 on Credit Sesame. I was going to lay low for another couple of months but I have some Hilton stays coming up.
Credit Sesame is nonsense. Go for it. The worst that happens is they say no. After 12 months you may get an upgrade offer as well. HHonors points are gutted for top properties, but the devaluation wasn't as rough if you need a random night at a hampton inn or something.
#1865
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,456
That is an important and reasonable concern. Keep in mind it's usually only within a single lender. So 15k from BoA would generally only affect BoA approvals and many banks will let you reallocate existing credit line from one of their own cards to overturn a denial. (not sure about BoA)
#1866
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: Mileage Plus, Aadvantage, Skymiles, Marriott, Priority Club, SPG, Amtrak, Hertz
Posts: 834
When I first started out I applied for something like 12 or 13. This was in 2007, before all the blogs started, and I didn't know about FT. I just applied until I got denied. IMO, do as many as you can meet the min spend on.
#1867
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 37
How bad is the hit to your credit score when you're applying to that many cards at once?
#1868
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Jackson, WY
Posts: 543
Nice. Love the courage OP! I don't have the bal....
I'm happy with 11 since Feb.
I'm happy with 11 since Feb.
#1869
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
This would be just for me. Spouse will do some more Min spend really is a non-issue in this day and age of MS where I can generate $20k spend a month with very little effort. Some of the cards on my list are there purely for MS purposes as opposed to upfront bonuses (WF 5% cashback and TD Ameritrade 5% rewards), and some are just good keeper cards I've not yet got round to getting (PenFed travel rewards, Fidelity Amex), along with some of the big sign up ones.
I have 13 lined up and think I will get at least 11 of them.
I have 13 lined up and think I will get at least 11 of them.
#1870
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Antonio
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 2,276
This would be just for me. Spouse will do some more Min spend really is a non-issue in this day and age of MS where I can generate $20k spend a month with very little effort. Some of the cards on my list are there purely for MS purposes as opposed to upfront bonuses (WF 5% cashback and TD Ameritrade 5% rewards), and some are just good keeper cards I've not yet got round to getting (PenFed travel rewards, Fidelity Amex), along with some of the big sign up ones.
I have 13 lined up and think I will get at least 11 of them.
I have 13 lined up and think I will get at least 11 of them.
#1871
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: FL
Programs: AAdvantage Elite Plat, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Hertz Gold, BA
Posts: 498
This would be just for me. Spouse will do some more Min spend really is a non-issue in this day and age of MS where I can generate $20k spend a month with very little effort. Some of the cards on my list are there purely for MS purposes as opposed to upfront bonuses (WF 5% cashback and TD Ameritrade 5% rewards), and some are just good keeper cards I've not yet got round to getting (PenFed travel rewards, Fidelity Amex), along with some of the big sign up ones.
I have 13 lined up and think I will get at least 11 of them.
I have 13 lined up and think I will get at least 11 of them.
Trying to learn the trade from the masters!!
#1872
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
For the rest it depends on specific cards and churn cycles. With Chase and Amex I try to get a card once, keep it for a year then close. Then the following year I let my spouse get it. Then the year after I can usually get it again with the sign up bonus. This pattern works well for Chase and Amex. If cards are more churnable than that, like Bank of America, then I will just add them into the cycle on any given round.
My usual cycle has been 6-7 cards per quarter. But with some time on the bench I want to make up for lost ground
#1873
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
10-12 sounds about right to me after a 6 month break. +1 on waiting until after the refi closes and funds. The fact that you have signed the papers at the title company or wherever you close does not mean it's all done. When you hear the fat lady singing your old lender has been paid you can fire up the AOR.
#1874
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Diego
Programs: UA Lifetime PE, Hilton Dia, WN CP, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 293
#1875
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 78
Just Curious, Since bumpage was mentioned. Does anyone pay for bumpage just for AORs? I have 10 hards on my TU. 2 Fresh, 3 that are 7 months old, and 5 that are 13 months old. Would anyone pay for bumpage, or not worry about it since half are over a year? - I won't be doing another AOR for at least 5-6 months. But I'd like to get another US Bank on my next round if possible.
(for KY Chase, Barclay, US Bank, Etc all pull TU).
I wouldn't say i have a thin file, but my oldest card is 6 years, and avg age is probably under 2 years
Note for US Bank:
If you haven't already, be sure to put a freeze on those pesky additional agencies or there is almost no chance of being approved for US Bank if you're a churner. ( IDA / ARS )
(for KY Chase, Barclay, US Bank, Etc all pull TU).
I wouldn't say i have a thin file, but my oldest card is 6 years, and avg age is probably under 2 years
Note for US Bank:
If you haven't already, be sure to put a freeze on those pesky additional agencies or there is almost no chance of being approved for US Bank if you're a churner. ( IDA / ARS )