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Coronavirus and masks/face coverings [Consolidated thread]

Old Feb 24, 20, 7:50 am
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Iíve lost my mask, but I see I can get a replacement.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/s6-respir...gAAOSwUOJeTXl3

I have an NBC Suit in original sealed wrapping to go with it. That should do.
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Old Feb 26, 20, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by cupsandsaucers View Post
The masks we see people wearing do not filter viruses. End of. They are entierly pointless. Be it from catching it yourself or spreading it to others. they are literally 0% effective.
probably WORSE than zero % effective as nearly everyone who wears a mask touches their face much more frequently
i wear a mask every day a work (surgery) and am quite used to wearing one and donít touch my face at all and I know unless itís a properly fitted N95 or better they are, as stated, useless
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Old Feb 26, 20, 12:32 pm
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Agreed, as a doctor I think its stupid that this has gone on but of course some companies are making $$$. Its absurd going through airports seeing people with pointless masks half off their faces or even snugly fit knowing that they have zero benefits and likely cause even more risks. Go wash your hands and stop being hysterical.
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Old Feb 26, 20, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Fly_IAD View Post
Agreed, as a doctor I think its stupid that this has gone on but of course some companies are making $$$. Its absurd going through airports seeing people with pointless masks half off their faces or even snugly fit knowing that they have zero benefits and likely cause even more risks. Go wash your hands and stop being hysterical.

hand washing seems to be key. But perhaps buying a mask is easier and a psychological Ďfeel goodí even if of no effect. Oneat LGW travellex was wearing a floor sanding dust mask this week. Perhaps thatís testament to the lack of education from the U.K. government?

My main worry with hand washing is that on BA the loos are in such poor shape after an hour or so that Iím never sure Iím going to pick up more in there than Iíve washed off. Perhaps this is a wake up call for BA/Cruz to finally tackle the loo hygiene issue?

If Cathay are masktastic the key nevertheless might be that, like JAL, they also clean the loos in flight.
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Old Feb 26, 20, 12:55 pm
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Several people in the T3 lounges today wearing them and a few on the flight to BCN, however they all seemed happy enough to take them off when alcohol was on offer!
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Old Feb 26, 20, 3:37 pm
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Several people in the T3 lounges today wearing them and a few on the flight to BCN, however they all seemed happy enough to take them off when alcohol was on offer!
lol of course
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Old Feb 26, 20, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by DFB_london View Post
hand washing seems to be key. But perhaps buying a mask is easier and a psychological Ďfeel goodí even if of no effect. Oneat LGW travellex was wearing a floor sanding dust mask this week. Perhaps thatís testament to the lack of education from the U.K. government?

My main worry with hand washing is that on BA the loos are in such poor shape after an hour or so that Iím never sure Iím going to pick up more in there than Iíve washed off. Perhaps this is a wake up call for BA/Cruz to finally tackle the loo hygiene issue?

If Cathay are masktastic the key nevertheless might be that, like JAL, they also clean the loos in flight.
handwashing and general good hygiene practices are behaviors like anything else we do and ones that most human beings are unwilling to do well as it takes more effort than walking around with a mask half dangling off ones face I suppose
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Old Feb 26, 20, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by DFB_london View Post
hand washing seems to be key. But perhaps buying a mask is easier and a psychological Ďfeel goodí even if of no effect. Oneat LGW travellex was wearing a floor sanding dust mask this week. Perhaps thatís testament to the lack of education from the U.K. government?

My main worry with hand washing is that on BA the loos are in such poor shape after an hour or so that Iím never sure Iím going to pick up more in there than Iíve washed off. Perhaps this is a wake up call for BA/Cruz to finally tackle the loo hygiene issue?

If Cathay are masktastic the key nevertheless might be that, like JAL, they also clean the loos in flight.
Maybe, in addition to the usual soap and water inside the loos, hand sanitizer gel should be placed both outside and inside the loos. Might encourage more people to take basic precautions although the gel is less efficient than soap and water.
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Old Feb 26, 20, 4:02 pm
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I am certainly not arguing with you... I truly don't know... but if they are so ineffective why then are so many people wearing them in affected areas?
Because the media is pedalling hysteria and every image shown in covering the story has people wearing masks. Sky News app has 50% of stories covering the issue and there are 3 ads for masks on every story. I'm frankly sick of the panic caused by the media which isn't serving anyone but could cause many many businesses to go under, all so they can sell ad space. Sky News does have correct advice on a story about how masks are ineffective, but then reinforces the wrong behaviour by showing every story with pictures of people with masks on.

The media are interested in one thing. Covering a story. If it isn't dramatic enough, they will create drama and panic. If it causes a global recession, all the better. More dramatic news. It's a feeding frenzy with no one knowing what the real truth is. Which is in the end not great for fighting the virus.The media seems to talk as if it is unavoidable with maps and graphs. At some point people will shrug their shoulders and see it as inevitable that it will become as bad as it gets and give up on the things that DO prevent the virus spreading - hygiene - hand hygiene in particular.

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Old Feb 27, 20, 12:16 am
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Maybe, in addition to the usual soap and water inside the loos, hand sanitizer gel should be placed both outside and inside the loos. Might encourage more people to take basic precautions although the gel is less efficient than soap and water.
I have an issue with the lo doors. I go through the trouble of washing my hands thoroughly then I have to touch the door hand to exit the loos! DOH! I always go into a loo now with a clean tissue to use on the handle to get out without having to touch it.

On all the cruise ships I have been on the doors open automatically so that you don't touch them after washing your hand. I don't expect all loos to have automatic doors but they could make them so they open outwards so you can just push with your shoulders to exit without having to touch the handle.
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Old Feb 27, 20, 12:21 am
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I have an issue with the lo doors. I go through the trouble of washing my hands thoroughly then I have to touch the door hand to exit the loos! DOH! I always go into a loo now with a clean tissue to use on the handle to get out without having to touch it.

On all the cruise ships I have been on the doors open automatically so that you don't touch them after washing your hand. I don't expect all loos to have automatic doors but they could make them so they open outwards so you can just push with your shoulders to exit without having to touch the handle.
The bifold doors are the best. Just push the middle outwards with your elbow.
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Old Feb 27, 20, 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet View Post
I have an issue with the lo doors. I go through the trouble of washing my hands thoroughly then I have to touch the door hand to exit the loos!
Quite apart from the corona virus, toilets pose a high microbiological problem with their doors. Toilets are never nice places so people get out of them as quickly as they can. Embedded in their mind is the need to wash hands but they then donít bother to dry them. Wet will spread bugs much more effectively than dry hands so the handle becomes contaminated.
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Old Feb 27, 20, 12:27 am
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Corona is still a big concern but, you can still avoid wearing a mask until you are ill.
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Originally Posted by milkyway88 View Post
Several people in the T3 lounges today wearing them and a few on the flight to BCN, however they all seemed happy enough to take them off when alcohol was on offer!
I'm in the T5 south lounge now and only seen a couple of people wearing masks. There are hand gel pumps at all the food stations but not many are using them.
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Old Feb 27, 20, 10:50 am
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There are hand gel pumps at all the food stations but not many are using them.
Of course not, why would most people do something that actually helps
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