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Coronavirus and masks/face coverings [Consolidated thread]

Old Mar 3, 20, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by drvannostren
I'll be in Tirana next week, I'll let you know if I catch it!
Did not catch the Coronavirus. That said here in Skopje SOMETHING is in the air and has triggered allergies I didn't know I had...walk into the airbnb and it's like 3-4 huge sneezes, walk outside to the car, another couple...and I keep forgetting to put kleenex in my pocket.
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Old Mar 3, 20, 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by cupsandsaucers
The masks we see people wearing do not filter viruses. End of. They are entierly pointless. Be it from catching it yourself or spreading it to others. they are literally 0% effective.
I'm not arguing with the sentiment. But proper masks, fitted properly, will guard against particles/droplets carrying the virus.

But it would be an expensive and very uncomfortable experience, best left to professionals dealing with the sick.
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Old Mar 4, 20, 12:13 am
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Originally Posted by drvannostren
. That said here in Skopje SOMETHING is in the air and has triggered allergies I didn't know I had...
Wood burning stoves. It is a huge problem in the Balkans in winter for historical reasons, and Skopje is the worst city on a very long list. It's enough for me to avoid the place (and Sarajevo) at this time of year.
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Old Mar 4, 20, 2:50 am
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Originally Posted by Fly_IAD
Of course not, why would most people do something that actually helps
We don't need to use them now that Boris has taught us how to wash our hands. Looking forward to hearing the birthday songs from the loos. :-)
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Old Mar 4, 20, 3:42 am
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Just back from a MAD trip.

Some masks around, mostly ill-fitting, improperly worn, etc., so the wearers' hands are going up to their faces more than if they hadn't been wearing the masks, as they kept fiddling with and adjusting them.

Other one was a lady who I observed wearing her mask in LHR, and on the aircraft, but removed it once the aircraft had landed in MAD and the door was open. Obviously the Coronavirus can't infect Spanish people while in Spain, at least in her mind!

Also noted the issue mentioned with disposing of masks - noticed quite a few dropped masks that had landed in hard to get places, like down the gaps between two side-by-side escalators, etc.
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Old Mar 4, 20, 3:54 am
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The one that make me laugh in DOH a few weeks ago was someone moving their mask off their face to sneeze into their hands. Now where is the facepalm emoji...
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Old Mar 4, 20, 5:18 am
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Did an overnight TP run to HEL on Monday. Spotted quite a few mask wearers in HEL and some on our BA outbound and inbound flights. Pretty much all of them looked like they were from the far east or a far east race.

I did spot a woman on the bus in Chiswick on my way home from LHR yesterday who was wearing a mask, which attracted a few eye rolls from the other bus passengers!
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Spotted around 30 mask wearers around T5 this morning. Most masks seemed to be type that the nice lady who does the Current Future Ex-Mrs Spike nails wears. One was loose enough for the wearer to be able to get her finger up her nose 😂

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Old Mar 4, 20, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
Wood burning stoves. It is a huge problem in the Balkans in winter for historical reasons, and Skopje is the worst city on a very long list. It's enough for me to avoid the place (and Sarajevo) at this time of year.
That's interesting, I haven't seen much in the way of smoke in the city, whereas I did see open flame burnings while driving between the countries. But it could be this for sure, all I know is I've been sneezing like crazy since I got here.
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Old Mar 4, 20, 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by drvannostren
That's interesting, I haven't seen much in the way of smoke in the city, whereas I did see open flame burnings while driving between the countries. But it could be this for sure, all I know is I've been sneezing like crazy since I got here.
The relevant particulates are under 10 microns across, so there isn't much to see, but you may smell a certain smokiness in the air. There is one other town in North Macedonia with the highest level of pollution in Europe, Tetovo, but Skopje is usually in the top 4 most polluted cities in Europe and easily the most polluted European capital city, where the impact has a measurable negative impact on lifespan. It looks ok when you are there, a bit of haze maybe, but the city is hemmed in by mountains,it suffers from temperature inversion and isn't that windy, so pollution gets capped down at low levels. Access to wood is easy and cheap, given the surrounding forests, and so when subsidised coal ended with the collapse of Tito's Yugoslavia there was this fatal switch to wood burning stoves.
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Old Mar 4, 20, 9:46 am
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DIY option...

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Old Mar 4, 20, 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by Yeoman5
Surprisingly no one appeared to be wearing masks on my half-full (or half-empty, depending on your outlook) BA11 LHR-SIN flight last week, including no crew doing so. I saw one couple pop them on when leaving the aircraft. Also surprisingly very few wearing them in the airport. Plenty on my subsequent SQ flight to Oz with most crew doing so.
I came back on BA12 15 days ago and there was a pax on the plane whom became sick on the plane. Crew were giving assistance and that pax boarded the plane without a mask but left it with a mask. Also, after we are parked up, we had to wait for sometime before Port Health gave permission to open the plane's doors. We were given no information other than just the usual bit of paper from NHS.

Personally, I just finished a 14 days home quarantine ordered by NHS Scotland under the Public Health Act (law) because of what is likely a traveller's cough (and the fact I arrived from somewhere over 25 degrees warmer) and it wasn't fun.
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There was a story in a Norwegian newspaper today about a Swedish woman who was hung over on BA12 after a rather heavy night in Singapore, but the crew suspected corona. The flight got the royal salute on arrival, and put into quarantine on arrival. She is now in quarantine in London where she lives. Im unable to find a link right now, but perhaps this was the culprit. FYI she tested negative.
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Originally Posted by muscat
  • There were an estimated 23,200 excess winter deaths which occurred in England and Wales in the 2018 to 2019 winter, the lowest since the winter of 2013 to 2014.

    How many people did you seen wearing masks last winter, or the one before that
This whole thing is ridiculous.

If you are old and vulnerable flu is dodgy at any time.

Just travel, live your life and enjoy the sale fares and empty cabins.
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
The relevant particulates are under 10 microns across, so there isn't much to see, but you may smell a certain smokiness in the air. There is one other town in North Macedonia with the highest level of pollution in Europe, Tetovo, but Skopje is usually in the top 4 most polluted cities in Europe and easily the most polluted European capital city, where the impact has a measurable negative impact on lifespan. It looks ok when you are there, a bit of haze maybe, but the city is hemmed in by mountains,it suffers from temperature inversion and isn't that windy, so pollution gets capped down at low levels. Access to wood is easy and cheap, given the surrounding forests, and so when subsidised coal ended with the collapse of Tito's Yugoslavia there was this fatal switch to wood burning stoves.
It wasn't so much in Tetovo, but tonight I drove from Skopje to Ohrid (not a great idea to do at night lol, luckily no snow, just ugly mountain roads with no lights and heavy rains) towards the end i DEFINITELY smelled "camping" that distinct wood burning stank.

Originally Posted by Will100
This whole thing is ridiculous.

If you are old and vulnerable flu is dodgy at any time.

Just travel, live your life and enjoy the sale fares and empty cabins.
I wouldn't say it's "ridiculous" but I agree with the rest of your statement. My biggest issue is that I haven't seen much of the sale fares. At least, nothing like out of the normal type sales. I fully expected to see like some premium cabin fares with low prices, but haven't seen much of it yet. Hoping some stuff still pops up, I've got free time in the summer...
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