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mersk862 Nov 14, 2009 9:45 am


Originally Posted by GTITAN (Post 12817497)
Ooooh, good one!!!!:-::-:

Morning Box!

One problem with that routing - CLT-BOS would be on US :rolleyes:

Best make it CLT-CLE-BOS.

sbm12 Nov 14, 2009 9:46 am


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12817537)
I don't have any problem with ATL's monorail. And, unlike in some modern airports, you can comfortably walk if anything happens to it.

Agreed. It may be partly because I grew up transiting ATL a lot as a kid. But I don't mind it at all.

Phudnik Nov 14, 2009 9:46 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12817522)
Is the DFW train a Monorail of Death™ like ATL's? I have transited DFW before, but was so young that I don't recall if I was on the train or not.

The current train system -- which is airside -- is relatively new. IME it works pretty well for changing terminals as long as you stay on the same side of the airport.

Mackieman Nov 14, 2009 9:47 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 12817542)
Agreed. It may be partly because I grew up transiting ATL a lot as a kid. But I don't mind it at all.

I don't mind it either, but it is somewhat jarring when you ride it for the first time, what with the expedient acceleration and deceleration. DEN has the same system but it seems to be somewhat less violent.

GTITAN Nov 14, 2009 9:47 am


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12817513)
What I'm referring to was your staying on the air in the thick of the incoming DDoS yesterday. I was able to get on via a link to an archived (hundreds of pages ago) link, and then up to last page, but not log in. All there was in the afternoon was your posts.

It was like a war correspondent broadcasting from a surrounded bunker. ALCO should award you some title for affecting continuity in the face of electronic chaos.

Why thank you xFF, I guess it was just like Edward R. Murrow from London during the dark days of WWII, but without any journalistic talent, any war, any courage and/or anything else that typified the "greatest generation." Other than that, I think it was just about the same.:D:D

ConciergeMike Nov 14, 2009 9:51 am


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12817531)
No, it's an above terminal train a la TerminaLink at IAH except not nearly as crappy.

:-:


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12817537)
I don't have any problem with ATL's monorail. And, unlike in some modern airports, you can comfortably walk if anything happens to it.

Agree about the walking part, but my beef with ATL is that the monorail stops are 1,000 feet apart, and Bombardier programmed the system to go from zero to what the hell upon leaving the station, stay at what the hell for 500 feet, and then go to the brake setting called "what one of those crash test dummies feels" for the second 500 feet.


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12817537)
BTW, let us know when you post in the UA forum. With your signature, there should be some interesting replies.

I have no plans to go in there anytime soon. Not because of the signature, but solely because it's the UA forum. My current forecast for visiting there is sometime in the 2nd quarter of 2010.

Phudnik Nov 14, 2009 9:51 am


Originally Posted by mersk862 (Post 12817539)
One problem with that routing - CLT-BOS would be on US :rolleyes:

Best make it CLT-CLE-BOS.

That's true, and you'd have to change terminals in BOS. You could replace CLE with IAD but then you'd be stuck on Mesa, at least in the short term.

ConciergeMike Nov 14, 2009 9:52 am


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12817551)
what with the expedient acceleration and deceleration.

That is an exceedingly polite description, IMO.

xFF Nov 14, 2009 9:52 am


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12817551)
I don't mind it either, but it is somewhat jarring when you ride it for the first time, what with the expedient acceleration and deceleration. DEN has the same system but it seems to be somewhat less violent.

That's the price of the very short (90 sec peak) headway, as opposed to the ~3 min best at DEN.

GTITAN Nov 14, 2009 9:54 am


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 12817573)
That's true, and you'd have to change terminals in BOS. You could replace CLE with IAD but then you'd be stuck on Mesa, at least in the short term.

The absolute worst airline experience that I have had on a consistent basis is CLT-IAD on Mesa. The airline and the airport were just awful every time. It did not matter time of day, season, weather or whatever, it was just awful.:td::td:

Phudnik Nov 14, 2009 9:55 am


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12817551)
DEN has the same system but it seems to be somewhat less violent.

The train at DEN also plays snippets of music when arriving and leaving (Rockabilly and boogie-woogie, as I recall) to get you in the proper mood to change terminals.

xFF Nov 14, 2009 9:55 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12817571)
Agree about the walking part, but my beef with ATL is that the monorail stops are 1,000 feet apart, and Bombardier programmed the system to go from zero to what the hell upon leaving the station, stay at what the hell for 500 feet, and then go to the brake setting called "what one of those crash test dummies feels" for the second 500 feet.

Come to think of it, it's surprising we don't see more monorail "surfers" there: the kids of all ages that try to do the trip without handholds of any kind. It is the equivalent challenge of Black Diamond on the slopes for sure.

MBM3 Nov 14, 2009 10:00 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12817522)
Is the DFW train a Monorail of Death™ like ATL's? I have transited DFW before, but was so young that I don't recall if I was on the train or not.

The ATL train should require an E ticket to ride. Zoooooooooooooooooooooom!

ConciergeMike Nov 14, 2009 10:00 am


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12817599)
Come to think of it, it's surprising we don't see more monorail "surfers" there: the kids of all ages that try to do the trip without handholds of any kind. It is the equivalent challenge of Black Diamond on the slopes for sure.

There's a name for that: non-medicated suicidal. I'm genuinely surprised that someone unfamiliar with the airport has not sued after falling over due to the hard start or stop.

GTITAN Nov 14, 2009 10:04 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12817628)
There's a name for that: non-medicated suicidal. I'm genuinely surprised that someone unfamiliar with the airport has not sued after falling over due to the hard start or stop.

Speaking of airport "people movers" and the :rolleyes:, is there anything worse than an IAD moon buggy? Gosh, those things are pathetic. Haven't been through IAD this year, have they finally been replaced by much vaunted underground train?


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