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Brituchenite Jul 15, 2009 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12069577)
It's that if I go someplace, I want to be seeing things. I feel like sitting on a beach is a waste of time.



Plus1

CO 1E Jul 15, 2009 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12071353)
Why? IAD is about 100 miles further than ATL, but that's still less than an hour flight. Personally, as much I loathe IAD, i'd rather connect there than ATL.

+1,000

rolov Jul 15, 2009 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 12071296)
That would be a US-Africa/Middle East reward with a stopover in Europe for 120k unless you use VS on any of the segments. A few months ago, I had JFK-DXB-JNB//CPT-DXB-ZRH-AMS-IAD booked on EK and KL for 120k (didn't end up flying it, though).

:-:

ConciergeMike Jul 15, 2009 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12071206)
I've never seen those stupid UPS commericals or at least I don't remember seeing them.

I remember them...they were meh.


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12071226)
I read that as well, though I honestly think UA is in a slightly better position as it has assets that can a) be sold and b) desired. Seriously, what does US have?

NRT and the SFO pacific network by far are the largest. Some speculated that DL's primary reasoning for wanting NW was for the trans-pac network that DL was having a problem building on it's own.

Agree on both points. US doesn't have assets that are worth too much were they just to be put up for sale. PHL is meh for a hub, PHX is WN-land more than it is US, and CLT, as belynch has said, cannot support the company on its own. New A330's would be nice for someone to snap up...


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12071256)
PHX hub but that may only be of value to WN since it allows for a really easy expansion in PHX if that's in their cards.

PHX would be of value to WN, but only if they start doing more than domestic flying from there.


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12071288)
Honestly I don't think PHX is worth much. With how entrenched WN is there and the fact that aside from a few Canadian and Mexican flights, it's mostly just domestic.

IMHO, CLT is the only real asset with the large number of banks down there. But it is still pretty close to both ATL and IAD.

It's as close to a fortress as they still have.


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 12071320)
I don't think that IAD is a good option for a hub in the South East at all. Picking up CLT would actually bring some value to the table, I think.

All depends on who picks it up.

CO 1E Jul 15, 2009 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12071345)
Can't see why anyone would want to travel to South Africa. It's hideous...


Hartmann, surely you could put your miles to better use by visiting Detroit or Sacramento...

South Africa looks like it sucks.

Brituchenite Jul 15, 2009 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12069665)
Are things going all wobbly wonkers today?



Wobbly-bonkers, dear man, wobbly-bonkers. Not wobbly-wonkers!

Olton Hall Jul 15, 2009 1:30 pm

My second favorite World Series moment is about to be shown on Yes from the 1998 WS.

ConciergeMike Jul 15, 2009 1:30 pm

BNA and DFW are the leading candidates for the Devils road game. Opening Night is Devils vs. Flyers in Newark and my mother has already requested group space. October 3rd at 7pm.

sfogate Jul 15, 2009 1:33 pm

Official temperature yesterday: 97 degrees :td:

It's much cooler today, thank god. The Bay Area is not meant to be hot.

sbm12 Jul 15, 2009 1:34 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12071375)
All depends on who picks [CLT] up.

Agreed, though other than DL I think it brings value to everyone in the industry right now. It would be good for WN, CO, B6, UA, AS, NK, F9, etc. OK, maybe not everyone, but you get the idea. ;)

CO 1E Jul 15, 2009 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12071120)
Give it time, the stay requirement may go away. Future loads are way too light for the airlines not to be flexible.

My new rule for now is that i'm not paying more than $600 for a coach ticket anywhere, at least for personal travel. I suspect we'll be seeing a nice set of deals on the horizon with the way the earnings announcements and future bookings are looking.

Plus 1.


The next six months should be some prime mileage running.
Yes.

Olton Hall Jul 15, 2009 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12071390)
BNA and DFW are the leading candidates for the Devils road game. Opening Night is Devils vs. Flyers in Newark and my mother has already requested group space. October 3rd at 7pm.

I'm trying to remember if Gaylord charged a breathing fee, door opening fee, door closing fee, restroom fee, overhead lighting surcharge, entertainment fee, etc. to watch a game in BNA.

CO 1E Jul 15, 2009 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 12071296)
That would be a US-Africa/Middle East reward with a stopover in Europe for 120k unless you use VS on any of the segments. A few months ago, I had JFK-DXB-JNB//CPT-DXB-ZRH-AMS-IAD booked on EK and KL for 120k (didn't end up flying it, though).

Actually, that would be a US-Africa/Middle East reward with an open jaw and stopover, not just a stopover, and would be doable for 120k if you did not use VS. Tack on 30k each way if you use VS on any of the segments.

sbm12 Jul 15, 2009 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12071353)
Why? IAD is about 100 miles further than ATL, but that's still less than an hour flight. Personally, as much I loathe IAD, i'd rather connect there than ATL.

Huh? :confused:

Where is IAD 100 miles further than ATL from? The two are 534 miles apart. I don't think that ATL and CLT in the same company make much sense just like ATL and MEM don't make much sense. But either ATL or CLT does make sense for a S.E. USA hub to me.

rolov Jul 15, 2009 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 12071342)
Sign up for a Skywards account, do some research, and call CO if you find something desirable.

Which award bucket does CO get to take from ? Business or Peak Business ?


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