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Steph3n Apr 28, 2009 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11659488)
$900M was excised from the Stimulus that was supposed to be directed to the CDC to fund pandemic prevention at the insistence of Senator Susan Collins of Maine (to secure her vote to break cloture). Unfortunately, this legislative maneuver has left the CDC seriously underfunded (at a time when it was already chronically underfunded for pandemic prevention). I'm actually in favor of the government making up any funding shortfall (there are numerous articles dating back years relating to under-funding of pandemic prevention programs in this country). Even if much of the proposed appropriation might be too little to late in this case, it surely couldn't hurt, and it would no doubt assist in preparedness for future pandemics.



I am a little more concerned about Baxter international and other companies making the 'cures' that are releasing the pandemics at the same time.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 28, 2009 12:41 pm

I would also add that despite much media hype, the Swine Flu isn't a made-up problem. The Significant Otter indicated that the residents and staff at her Medical School convened a special meeting to discuss the Swine Flu, as well as the State Hospital System's methods of preparation for and response to a potential pandemic. According to her, this is not something that well-trained physicians are taking lightly. All well and good, in my opinion.

Olton Hall Apr 28, 2009 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by Steve GadFly (Post 11659063)
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint:SPH-i325 320x240)

Just lost all internet, phone, and TV so I'm stuck doing everything on my 1/2 charged PDA. Thanks a lot Comcast! They'd better get this up and running soon.


Originally Posted by photog72 (Post 11659104)
Why do people even subscribe to them?:rolleyes:

Today has been the first day in a long time that Comcast Internet has been working correctly for me. As for cable, I'll switch to Fios when they get all of the local channels I have on Comcast.


Originally Posted by notabob (Post 11659253)
The new 737 Sky Interior overhead bins are so :rolleyes:. How are we supposed to climb into those!?!

I can hear all of the people complaining about the lights and air vents being mounted all the way over to the one side. Not like the last 727's didn't have the service panel over their but it was a pain 20 some years ago, I'd suspect it will be a pain now.

sdm1130 Apr 28, 2009 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11659505)
According to her, this is not something that well-trained physicians are taking lightly. All well and good, in my opinion.

I completely agree. It is not something to be taken lightly (especially with the speed in which the flu is spreading) but I think people are a little further down the panic road then they have to be at this point. Of course, a lot (all?) of this is just fueled by the media.

To your other post - I am also in support of investing funds to help the CDC as long as it is spent wisely to prepare us for any future pandemic. Unfortunately, with the panic that the media is building, I have a feeling most of the money has the potential of being poorly spent, out of panic, on the pig flu.

Steph3n Apr 28, 2009 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11659505)
I would also add that despite much media hype, the Swine Flu isn't a made-up problem. The Significant Otter indicated that the residents and staff at her Medical School convened a special meeting to discuss the Swine Flu, as well as the State Hospital System's methods of preparation for and response to a potential pandemic. According to her, this is not something that well-trained physicians are taking lightly. All well and good, in my opinion.

the threat is very real.

Here some article about my last post:
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canad...7/8560781.html

we should be very cautious of the manipulation by greed of some to make money in such times.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 28, 2009 12:47 pm

I hope that Boeing redesign doesn't reduce the overall cubic footage of available overhead space. With the new checked-bag fees, space is tight enough as it is.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 28, 2009 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11659547)
I completely agree. It is not something to be taken lightly (especially with the speed in which the flu is spreading) but I think people are a little further down the panic road then they have to be at this point. Of course, a lot (all?) of this is just fueled by the media.

Absolutely. I also feel that hype is running well ahead of actual conditions. However, it looks like the type of people who will be at the front-lines of response are taking a calculated and responsible approach so far, which is ^


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11659547)
To your other post - I am also in support of investing funds to help the CDC as long as it is spent wisely to prepare us for any future pandemic. Unfortunately, with the panic that the media is building, I have a feeling most of the money has the potential of being poorly spent, out of panic, on the pig flu.

Unfortunately, crises are ideal times for less than scrupulous people to take advantage of government appropriations for personal (rather than public) gain. Human nature being what it is, I doubt we'll ever completely overcome this risk. Personally, I feel that if the government makes a determination that the risk of the pandemic outweighs the risk of graft, and if they put as many reasonable controls (transparency & tracking mechanisms) onto the funds as possible, that the money should be appropriated. If anyone misappropriates the funding, then they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Granted, that may not always be enough to recover the taxpayer's loss, but it's better than nothing.

Olton Hall Apr 28, 2009 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11659547)
I completely agree. It is not something to be taken lightly (especially with the speed in which the flu is spreading) but I think people are a little further down the panic road then they have to be at this point. Of course, a lot (all?) of this is just fueled by the media.

To your other post - I am also in support of investing funds to help the CDC as long as it is spent wisely to prepare us for any future pandemic. Unfortunately, with the panic that the media is building, I have a feeling most of the money has the potential of being poorly spent, out of panic, on the pig flu.

Newark, NJ might need some new garbage trucks to help in the piggy flu fight. (That's how they wisely spent their terror prevention money)

notabob Apr 28, 2009 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11659534)
I can hear all of the people complaining about the lights and air vents being mounted all the way over to the one side. Not like the last 727's didn't have the service panel over their but it was a pain 20 some years ago, I'd suspect it will be a pain now.

I would think that the lights and FA call button will be in a console on the armrest. Vents would present the only problem, methinks.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 28, 2009 1:06 pm

Sorry, almost took Teh Box into OMNI/PR territory. :rolleyes:

In other :rolleyes:, it looks like TPA-IAD posted at 1x earnings rates. Shame.

rkkwan Apr 28, 2009 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by notabob (Post 11659627)
I would think that the lights and FA call button will be in a console on the armrest. Vents would present the only problem, methinks.

Vents? What are those? ;) CO's 767/777 (as well as many other airlines) don't have them anyways.

Or they can go old-skool (or Soviet) and put them on the seat back. :D

ssullivan Apr 28, 2009 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by photog72 (Post 11659085)
Why does this city flood so much? Growing up in south Florida, we had tons of rain, but never this much flooding. At least it knocked the swine flu off the top of the newscasts. You wouldn't even know there was a swine flu if you saw the news today.

The city sits on a maze of bayous that flow into Galveston Bay. The entire city is relatively flat, and due to ground subsidence, has been sinking in many areas (although this problem isn't as bad as it used to be). Then there's the continued growth and sprawl. Concrete and buildings don't absorb water like the ground and trees do. And it has rained a lot lately, so the ground is pretty wet and can't soak up as much.

And Houston doesn't flood all the time. This kind of flooding happens once or twice every couple of years, usually in the spring or early summer, when torrential rains hit that dump a lot of water in a short period of time.

Hartmann Apr 28, 2009 1:25 pm

Research companies are a serious :rolleyes:

fozz Apr 28, 2009 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11659659)
In other :rolleyes:, it looks like TPA-IAD posted at 1x earnings rates. Shame.

I noticed that as well. I'm going to follow-up with Joanna as all my other QUP/HUPs on Ted/UEX get the normal 325%. Even the ones they had to manually post last week....

ssullivan Apr 28, 2009 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by Steve GadFly (Post 11659408)
Got my PC, cable modem, and router on a UPS so I'm ok for a 10 minute blackout. Of course a Comcast :rolleyes: still puts me out of comission.

My power went out a couple of weeks ago and I was able to stay online with my laptop on its battery and the DSL modem and Wi-Fi router on UPS for well over an hour until the UPS that supplies just the router and modem ran down.


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