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AMF in NJ Mar 30, 2009 9:14 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11497981)
For example if I were to take a job and wish to become a citizen of Switzerland, I expect to have to learn French, German, or Italian, even though most people have very passable english.

People that come to the US and don't speak English don't get great jobs. Everyone that I've worked with from a foreign country has spoken English. There is a big disparity in the incomes between the two.


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11498018)
Ah, you must have missed the memo. Official languages are not inclusionary. The PC Police are going to find you and make you watch MSNBC for even thinking of something so insulting. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

'Official languages' are :rolleyes:. Immigrants that don't learn the language get by as best they can and their kids grow up speaking English. Over time it takes care of itself. It's not an issue.

This is my OMNI post of the day.

Oh yes, poop!

Steph3n Mar 30, 2009 9:16 am


Originally Posted by AMF in NJ (Post 11498097)
People that come to the US and don't speak English don't get great jobs. Everyone that I've worked with from a foreign country has spoken English. There is a big disparity in the incomes between the two.


'Official languages' are :rolleyes:. Immigrants that don't learn the language get by as best they can and their kids grow up speaking English. Over time it takes care of itself. It's not an issue.

This is my OMNI post of the day.

Oh yes, poop!

Official languages are to standardize tests and signage. We as states should not have to distribute everything in 18 languages. It costs all of us a lot of tax dollars for as you correctly note, people that don't add that much tax income to the system.

ConciergeMike Mar 30, 2009 9:23 am


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 11498017)
Very borderline indeed. I wondeer why CM is so antipathetic toward that poster altho I have seen posts of his that waft a supercilious aroma into the air.

And I'm on record as saying that I will back off if asked...I wish not to put PLI on my FM.

As for why...I'm not sure that getting into details would be the smart play to make. Maybe that discussion is better suited for a Panthers game; as I'm sure the building is pretty quiet this time of year. :D

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Mar 30, 2009 9:23 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11498015)
I would also like to add that contrary to popular belief , I am legally in the country .
I hold both a Mercosur Pasaporte and
a Pasaporte De Estados Unidos .

Nonsense. You are clearly an agent of Rolle Yes, sent here to infiltrate and report back :rolleyes:.

ConciergeMike Mar 30, 2009 9:23 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11498110)
Official languages are to standardize tests and signage. We as states should not have to distribute everything in 18 languages. It costs all of us a lot of tax dollars for as you correctly note, people that don't add that much tax income to the system.

It is high......it is far....it is GONE!

ConciergeMike Mar 30, 2009 9:26 am


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 11498043)
In France, if you are trying, they generally will help you out unless your mispronunciations are gross.

And in Paris, they refuse to acknowledge your existence.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Mar 30, 2009 9:27 am


Originally Posted by sfogate (Post 11498071)
I think he's driving himself. Let's hope he doesn't think that a chicken would make a good pet in NYC.

There are two roads into the Casco Viejo from the Multicentro. One is slightly more :eek: than the other. If he took the one that hugs the coast, where you have to drive around the collapsed ruins of a building to get in, we should know within the first few lines of his post. I wonder if the glue-huffers and prostitutes are out in the streets this early in the morning. :rolleyes:

rolov Mar 30, 2009 9:27 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11498140)
And I'm on record as saying that I will back off if asked...I wish not to put PLI on my FM.

:D

For those keeping score
PLI is the IATA Airport code for Pandyland International Airport


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11498141)
Nonsense. You are clearly an agent of Rolle Yes, sent here to infiltrate and report back :rolleyes:.

Agent Ocho Cinco from Control

Hartmann Mar 30, 2009 9:28 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11498110)
Official languages are to standardize tests and signage. We as states should not have to distribute everything in 18 languages. It costs all of us a lot of tax dollars for as you correctly note, people that don't add that much tax income to the system.

Working for a school district now, I can say you are right on the money. My wife, who is a school teacher, also notices a huge difference in learning when students learn English as immigrants and those who's parents do not make it a priority.

Non-English speakers take a translated version of the Texas standardized test (TAKS), which includes things like English proficiency... :confused:

Rather than hold kids back who do not pass because they cannot understand the material due to language barriers, we let them go on to the next grade and wonder why they don't graduate high school.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Mar 30, 2009 9:33 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11498165)
Agent Ocho Cinco from Control

Your mission, should you choose to accept it: :rolleyes:

Steph3n Mar 30, 2009 9:36 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 11498172)
Working for a school district now, I can say you are right on the money. My wife, who is a school teacher, also notices a huge difference in learning when students learn English as immigrants and those who's parents do not make it a priority.

Non-English speakers take a translated version of the Texas standardized test (TAKS), which includes things like English proficiency... :confused:

Rather than hold kids back who do not pass because they cannot understand the material due to language barriers, we let them go on to the next grade and wonder why they don't graduate high school.

I worked a year in a school district as well :) (a day job, I worked for a bank at night, and went to college all at the same time.)

Our education system is more concerned about teaching to pass the TAKS than teaching students how to learn and think on their feet. :(

rolov Mar 30, 2009 9:39 am

When I first moved here , I was 10 years old and I spoke Zero Ingles.
I would go to school and not understand a single thing, I pretty much learned english watching cartoons.

In NY they had some sort of standarized writing test that you needed to pass at the end of the year , so as I started understanding a little bit more , I would also have to attend an after school english writing class.

I still don't know how I managed to learn so quickly and then pass the writing test.

rolov Mar 30, 2009 9:44 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11498202)
Your mission, should you choose to accept it: :rolleyes:

This :rolleyes: will self destruct in 5 seconds .

ConciergeMike Mar 30, 2009 9:46 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 11498172)
Rather than hold kids back who do not pass because they cannot understand the material due to language barriers, we let them go on to the next grade and wonder why they don't graduate high school.

It's more important that the kids be with their friends. Holding them back is cruel and unusual. And to top it off, it's just not nice. We can't do that; we have to be nice.

kingalien Mar 30, 2009 9:57 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11498237)
I would go to school and not understand a single thing, I pretty much learned english watching cartoons.

So did I...and I was born in the US. Tells you something about our education system :rolleyes:.


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