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Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 15, 2010 9:03 am

My take on the variable SPG Brands...

W - What some hipster marketing :rolleyes: thought would be trendy 5 years ago, although some properties are definitely :-:
Le Meridien - Essentially Sofitel SPG
St. Regis - Designed to promote luxury, as imagined by kettles in Des Moines (it ain't Mandarin Oriental)
Luxury Collection - A wild grab bag of different properties with almost nothing in common, though generally pretty nice

Trustguy Apr 15, 2010 9:04 am

Good morning Box.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 15, 2010 9:08 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 13776585)
Variability doesn't so much concern me as doosh factor does.

Then avoid Ws. All the other hotels are fine, including Aloft (they're cookie-cutter motels, really, and aren't really attracting any specific crowd, as far as I can tell).

CO 1E Apr 15, 2010 9:09 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13776476)
Yes. I just paid 20 Squids per ticket. :rolleyes:

ETA - will haz to do it all over again when JJ joins :-:, but it will be worth the savings, considering the price of GIG-REC flights.

:rolleyes:

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 15, 2010 9:11 am

Regarding potential doosh factor, the Ws are also fine, so long as you avoid the Bar/Club area in the evenings, and don't intend to have extensive staff interaction. At most hotels, the extent of my staff interaction is picking up a key folio. I don't really care if the staff is full of itself in most cases, as I didn't travel to the destination to hang out with the check-in clerk or concierge (no offense to concierges intended, I just generally prefer to use the "random walk" method of exploring new places).

Hartmann Apr 15, 2010 9:12 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13776629)
Then avoid Ws. All the other hotels are fine, including Aloft (they're cookie-cutter motels, really, and aren't really attracting any specific crowd, as far as I can tell).

I think they try to appeal to the hipster crowd, but people looking for a good price are usually who I see staying there.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 15, 2010 9:12 am


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 13776637)
:rolleyes:

Aye. I needed to lock in the 2x IAH-GIG in J for the new date, though.

CO 1E Apr 15, 2010 9:13 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13776595)
My take on the variable SPG Brands...

W - What some hipster marketing :rolleyes: thought would be trendy 5 years ago, although some properties are definitely :-:
Le Meridien - Essentially Sofitel SPG
St. Regis - Designed to promote luxury, as imagined by kettles in Des Moines (it ain't Mandarin Oriental)
Luxury Collection - A wild grab bag of different properties with almost nothing in common, though generally pretty nice

St Regis generally isn't that kettley, IMO. St Regis SIN and SFO espcecially come to mind. St Regis DC used to be blah, but has improved with the remodel.

adelauro Apr 15, 2010 9:14 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 13776577)
adelauro, in case you didn't know...the Devils who have clauses in their contracts for such: Brodeur, Langenbrunner, Rolston, White (:mad:) and Pandolfo (:mad:) all have no-trade, and Elias has a no-movement clause, which IIRC means that he cannot play in the minors even for cause of rehab. It is rumored that in contract negotiations, Lou customarily expects a player to take $500K less per year in exchange for handcuffing him with a no-trade clause.

I was aware of such for Brodeur and Langenbrunner, but not the others. I've just always been a fan of Pando.



Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13776595)
W - What some hipster marketing :rolleyes: thought would be trendy 5 years ago

See above re: Chandelier Room and W Hoboken. :D

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 15, 2010 9:14 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 13776656)
I think they try to appeal to the hipster crowd, but people looking for a good price are usually who I see staying there.

Yep. I don't think they're really reaching what their original target market was. It has become an airport overnight/priceline special chain. I did like that the Aloft Austin had a pool table. Don't recall from my stays at other Alofts whether that's a feature of most/all Alofts.

ConciergeMike Apr 15, 2010 9:14 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13776649)
Regarding potential doosh factor, the Ws are also fine, so long as you avoid the Bar/Club area in the evenings, and don't intend to have extensive staff interaction. At most hotels, the extent of my staff interaction is picking up a key folio. I don't really care if the staff is full of itself in most cases, as I didn't travel to the destination to hang out with the check-in clerk or concierge (no offense to concierges intended, I just generally prefer to use the "random walk" method of exploring new places).

Duly noted and none taken. ^ I always manage to fritz my keys at least twice per stay when I put them too close to my BB. I'm probably at the Front Desk 3-4x per stay.

sbm12 Apr 15, 2010 9:16 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 13776543)
Not unlike belynch worrying about the NYC 'tude when he switched to CO, I am concerned that should I switch to SPG I just feel like I won't fit with some of the brands. AmEx told me card switch Is Possible if I just ask, but I can't bring myself to do it right now.

So don't stay in the hotels you don't like. I mostly stay in 4P and the like. Similar enough to HGI and Hampton that I don't see any reason to differentiate. And the up-side potential for stretch properties in crazy places is better with SPG so they get my few stays that earn points.

ConciergeMike Apr 15, 2010 9:16 am


Originally Posted by adelauro (Post 13776669)
I was aware of such for Brodeur and Langenbrunner, but not the others. I've just always been a fan of Pando.

My mother thinks Pando looks like a young Stallone and thusly refers to him as "Rocky". Nevah mind the prahhhhminnent Bahhston accent. :rolleyes:

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 15, 2010 9:16 am


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 13776663)
St Regis generally isn't that kettley, IMO. St Regis SIN and SFO espcecially come to mind. St Regis DC used to be blah, but has improved with the remodel.

The new look is a definite improvement. They needed to get away from Gold Brocaded Quilts, funky looking Marble, and beige carpeting. 1988 can stay where it is. St. Regis Houston was especially atrocious pre-remodel. I'm also biased against the brand, considering a very lousy stay there.

ConciergeMike Apr 15, 2010 9:17 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 13776686)
So don't stay in the hotels you don't like.

How do I know what I don't like with no exposure to them? I get a weird vibe about W's, but that's about it.


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