Happy

Unfortunately you are wrong.
Since late last year, all Citi's cards come with an approval letter which mentions the detail of bonus, AND some cards also come with the bonus details printed on the "card" page.

People on the Exec thread were the first group to find out they can get a card but not the bonus, AND later they discovered their bonus offers were not shown on their approval letter, plus when called in, the rep would see the bonus offer was deactivated.

If no bonus mentioned in the approval letter / card page, chances are, the bonus is deleted from the account.

Regarding your previous card, if you still have it opened, so it passes the test of the 18 months on both the open and the close part, you will get the bonus. If you have closed that card and the closure is less than 18 months ago, you waste a HP for nothing.

For the Hilton HHonors, the distinction is either the no fee or the fee-based Reserve. It is not like the AA cards that have the Gold and MC World. So one can get each bonus.

Good luck for your 40K. My interpretation is, they are not different products despite different bonuses. Both are Visa Signature.

Happy

Not sure you actually understand the rules. In a nut shell, the conversion means you would need to wait 18 months from the conversion before you can be eligible to get a bonus again.

beltway

I think you would do well to re-read the wiki, which doesn't say that at all.

sdsearch

I seem to recall reading upthread that it's only all Citi's personal cards. Specifically, I thought I read that Citi's AA business card approval letter doesn't mention the bonus even if you're going to get one. Citi seems to keep business cards pretty separate from personal cards, so I'd not be surprised if the paperwork is completely different for business cards. (I got one a couple years ago, but I don't remember what it's approval paperwork was like.)

Happy

I dont think in the past the bonus is ever mentioned on any paper that came with the card. It is an improvement since late last year. So people will be informed.

This may also explain why a poster was declined a business card but 3 days later got an approval of a personal card - there is no 8 days wait in between.

zippy the pinhead

Thanks, I was not clear on this. I received no bonus with the conversion, as I noted above. But I was uncertain how their clunky system would treat the conversion: as a new card, making me ineligible for the bonus, or as something in-between, making me eligible for the bonus. Initially, I was thinking it was worth a try, just to see. But I was looking for a good redemption in Seattle, and nothing I found was good enough to justify taking trouble.

express3

Sad to hear this
I was actually waiting on your update.
On a side note, is the marriott card churnable?
thanks!

Preacher7

Sure. Every 24 months!

Don't forget about the Marriott Canada card. 50K bonus and churnable, about every 18 months. But make sure you physically apply for it in Canada. Only Canadian card I know that will deny an app if applying physically from the U.S.

But let's get back to Hilton talk...

Another member of our churn team requested the upgrade to the 75K bonus from the 50K today. I'll keep y'all posted as to how our 2 requests go.

duranza

I don't know how to multi-quote.. but here is your first post then on another you said

"No dice on the 75K as it was not mentioned in the approval letter so I am not making the spend."

So are you planning to hang on to the card?

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flyer4512

Yes, one quote was from what the CSR VERBALLY told me and the other was from the letter that I received.

Most people here know to never trust what CSR's say but if you want to grab the 75K card ( and have had a card in the past 18 months) feel free to make the spend and see what happens.

I activated the card, lowered the limit to $3K ( just in case somebody here gets the card with no mention of the bonus , makes the spend and gets the 75K) for now, I will lower it to $1k when the 90 day window passes to make the spend and then cancel (along with the 4 other HH Visas I still have open) at the ~ 18 month mark after I am approved for my next HH Visa

cutnana

It is not a lot of spend and you will then know the answer for sure.

duranza

I was told by the agent that I did not qualify for the 75k points since I was not at the 18 mos mark (I researched and found that I had closed one back in June 2014 and presently have 2 cards)
I am waiting to see if they will grant the 40k points but not holding my breath on that one.
I lowered my $13.5 cl to $5k too.
I will probably try to get the reserve if this bonus is also shot down.

flyer4512

An extra $2k is a lot when you have to make $8K in spends by September and don't MS

I figured I would take one for the team and risk the HP, if you want to take it further ad make the spend I'm sure people here would love to know your results


Let me know on the 40K..........I would love to hear what they say if I call though..........gee sir you had 15 of these cards in the past 18 months, lol

LWT3

This thread is dead. The HH churn was the least loved among Citi churns, but I miss it just the same.