Originally Posted by workflyer (Post 8406905)

All jet aircraft toilets are equipped with change tables and the crew should be more than happy to assist mothers to the lavs if they require. ^

Originally Posted by workflyer (Post 8407482)

I stand corrected and im very shocked.

Ive worked for 2 airlines in the western world - perhaps downunder we are more thoughtful of the travelling parent.

Im sorry to hear this and applaud your efforts to go to the lav and slog it out!

Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 8407505)

Thanks. It's a real treat because he's nearly 3 and has so far been resistant to potty training. Wasn't as bad when he was younger.

One time on a UA 737 in F, I was changing him and he was really throwing a fit. After I got him changed, I just opened the door and the FA was right there. Handed him to her she took him back to my exwife so I could clean up.

That incident alone made me appreciate the changing tables on the Airbus twins.

It may be because a lot of US airlines are flying older planes that they don't have them installed. Perhaps less people with babies were flying back then ... don't really know.

Originally Posted by geheim (Post 8383535)

Hi,

I want to ask everyone here if you have any advice for me regarding an airline/travel incident that happened to me yesterday. Basically I was escorted off a flight by police officers for complaining to a flight attendant while a flight was on the tarmac for an hour waiting for a gate to open.

I took an American Airlines flight which arrived at Washington Reagan airport and had to sit on the tarmac for about an hour because the gates were full. After 30 minutes, I complained to a flight attendant on board, and asked what was causing the delay, how much longer the delay would last, and what kind of compensation the airline would offer passengers for the delay. She said that she didn't know any of this, and when I described the situation as "....ing ridiculous," she said that I shouldn't swear at her unless I wanted the police to meet us at the gate. I said that I didn't swear "at" her, and that this is America, we have freedom of speech here, and I would used whatever adjectives I wanted to describe this situation, even though she might find that distasteful. The whole conversation was in a normal tone and not loud at all... actually kind of quiet, although other passengers in the adjacent rows could hear. The flight attendant left abruptly and apparently called police because when the plane finally got to the gate everyone was told to retake their seats and I was singled out and escorted off the plane by two police officers. They ordered me to sit at one of the lounge chairs, where I explained what had happened. I was not arrested or charged with anything, although the lead officer told me that swearing in Virginia is a misdemeanor. I was also told that I could be charged with "starting a riot" since I had told the flight attendant that I would tell other passengers nearby me to complain to the gate agent along with me. I was followed by the officers to the baggage claim area where I got my luggage. Two other passengers came up to me and showed their support. One of them gave me her cell phone number. I left after getting the officers' badge numbers and names.

I told the officers that this was nothing more than an intimidation tactic by the airline and flight attendant, although they couldn't care less. By the time I was leaving, they were getting into an argument with another passenger and his wife from the same flight. What do you think my first step in pursuing redress for this should be? I plan on contacting a few lawyers. I've never had any problems like this with airlines before. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Originally Posted by RSSrsvp (Post 8407766)

You crossed the line by using the F word and received an appropriate response. It is no different than cursing at a waiter and being asked to leave the premises. In this case the premises was the plane and the crew was sending you a very strong message that your type of behavior was not appropriate and will not be tolerated.

You play, you pay.

Originally Posted by geheim (Post 8383535)

Hi,

I want to ask everyone here if you have any advice for me regarding an airline/travel incident that happened to me yesterday. Basically I was escorted off a flight by police officers for complaining to a flight attendant while a flight was on the tarmac for an hour waiting for a gate to open.

I took an American Airlines flight which arrived at Washington Reagan airport and had to sit on the tarmac for about an hour because the gates were full. After 30 minutes, I complained to a flight attendant on board, and asked what was causing the delay, how much longer the delay would last, and what kind of compensation the airline would offer passengers for the delay. She said that she didn't know any of this, and when I described the situation as "....ing ridiculous," she said that I shouldn't swear at her unless I wanted the police to meet us at the gate. I said that I didn't swear "at" her, and that this is America, we have freedom of speech here, and I would used whatever adjectives I wanted to describe this situation, even though she might find that distasteful. The whole conversation was in a normal tone and not loud at all... actually kind of quiet, although other passengers in the adjacent rows could hear. The flight attendant left abruptly and apparently called police because when the plane finally got to the gate everyone was told to retake their seats and I was singled out and escorted off the plane by two police officers. They ordered me to sit at one of the lounge chairs, where I explained what had happened. I was not arrested or charged with anything, although the lead officer told me that swearing in Virginia is a misdemeanor. I was also told that I could be charged with "starting a riot" since I had told the flight attendant that I would tell other passengers nearby me to complain to the gate agent along with me. I was followed by the officers to the baggage claim area where I got my luggage. Two other passengers came up to me and showed their support. One of them gave me her cell phone number. I left after getting the officers' badge numbers and names.

I told the officers that this was nothing more than an intimidation tactic by the airline and flight attendant, although they couldn't care less. By the time I was leaving, they were getting into an argument with another passenger and his wife from the same flight. What do you think my first step in pursuing redress for this should be? I plan on contacting a few lawyers. I've never had any problems like this with airlines before. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Wally Bird (Post 8384675)

You got what you deserved. Please do not abuse the 1st Amendment, it's under enough attack as it is. If you can't speak without being a foul-mouthed lout then zip it.

Clear enough ?

Originally Posted by GoingAway (Post 8407853)

:confused: Who are you people and what world do you live in? Have you ever been anywhere near a trading floor? Your ears would absolutely burn -- not everyone has the class of the posters in this thread and that is life. ONE CURSE does not and will never EQUAL the need to get LAW ENFORCEMENT involved. Especially one that is common usage (good or bad/right or wrong) for many people and it wasn't even directed AT the flight attendant.

Originally Posted by Wally Bird (Post 8386519)

Roth vs. United States of America.Mr. Justice Brennan.

Originally Posted by F9sjackrules (Post 8408109)

The first amendment, which protects your right to post your opinion, also allows the OP to speak freely to a flight attendant. The only reason the OP should have been escorted off the plane was if he was causing a public disturbance or threatening the flight crew - if the OP was honest in his assessment, he did neither. I'm not saying that I agree with the OP's actions, but I certainly don't think he "got what he deserved" as you do. Further, the only people attacking the first amendment are folks like you. You don't get to pick and choose which forms and topics of speech are protected.

As for Virginia's cursing ordinance, I'm sure it's as odd and antiquated as:

"...according to Title 21.1-521 of the Virginia Code, it is unlawful to hunt any wild bird or animal on Sunday, except for raccoons, which can be hunted up until 2:00 a.m. Sunday morning. Sunday “… is hereby declared a day of rest for all species of wild bird and wild animal life, except raccoons … .” (See Virginia Code Title 21.1-521.)" http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library...ordinances.htm

I suppose you'd like us to believe that nary a curse word is ever uttered in VA? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by GoingAway (Post 8407853)

:confused: Who are you people and what world do you live in? Have you ever been anywhere near a trading floor? Your ears would absolutely burn -- not everyone has the class of the posters in this thread and that is life. ONE CURSE does not and will never EQUAL the need to get LAW ENFORCEMENT involved. Especially one that is common usage (good or bad/right or wrong) for many people and it wasn't even directed AT the flight attendant.

Start listening to the discussions around you, folks ... it's a whole lot dirtier than your sainted ears are apparently accustomed to :td:

Oh yeah, and I've been real curious about this but how many folks on this thread that are so ready to tar & feather the OP are under, say 35 years of age? With the exception of stockmanjr who I know is, it sure sounds like mommy & daddy are out lecturing their kids :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by RSSrsvp (Post 8407766)

You crossed the line by using the F word and received an appropriate response. It is no different than cursing at a waiter and being asked to leave the premises. In this case the premises was the plane and the crew was sending you a very strong message that your type of behavior was not appropriate and will not be tolerated.

You play, you pay.