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Wally Bird Sep 12, 2007 9:03 am


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 8387783)
To the OP - you have my deepest sympathies, and I hope you pursue this matter, at least filing a complaint with the airline and perhaps contacting the ACLU. You do not have to muzzle yourself simply because the airlines front line customer service rep doesn't want to hear what you have to say.

Yeah, then come back and tell us how it went. I'd just love to see what the airline thinks about you swearing at their staff !

Wally Bird Sep 12, 2007 9:04 am


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 8388633)
He made a mistake with the F bomb, but haven't we all?

Nope. Has something to do with class, I believe. Or lack thereof.

LessO2 Sep 12, 2007 9:32 am


Originally Posted by MarcPHL (Post 8390638)
Ah, the good ole days, when everyone knew their place, blacks, sorry coloreds in the back of the bus, women, errr broads could be secretaries, nurses, FAs or teachers and had the pleasure of making--what was it--30 cents to a man's dollar? Oh it was grand when no Irish needed to apply, or before Italians and other Southern Europeans were considered "white".

You forget "stewardesses."

Superguy Sep 12, 2007 9:34 am


Originally Posted by Wally Bird (Post 8391126)
Nope. Has something to do with class, I believe. Or lack thereof.

Even classy people slip sometimes.

LessO2 Sep 12, 2007 9:39 am


Originally Posted by hiltonhead (Post 8388214)
I'm glad the FA decided to turn it over to the LEOs instead of just standing there and taking more abuse from an angry elitist.

Ludicrous.

Yes, the f-bomb was inappropriate. But to call in LEOs that are at the airport because we are at "Threat Condition Orange" over the f-bomb is utterly ridiculous.

JakiChan Sep 12, 2007 10:44 am


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 8391321)
But to call in LEOs that are at the airport because we are at "Threat Condition Orange" over the f-bomb is utterly ridiculous.

Clearly the f-bomb made her think we were at Threat Condition Saget! Next thing you know he'll start telling the Aristocrats joke and then the terrorists have won!

Big Mo Sep 12, 2007 10:58 am


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 8391292)
Even classy people slip sometimes.

That's true. When you slip and the person you're speaking with objects, the proper response is to apologize.


Originally Posted by JakiChan (Post 8391685)
Clearly the f-bomb made her think we were at Threat Condition Saget! Next thing you know he'll start telling the Aristocrats joke and then the terrorists have won!

LOL

peachfront Sep 12, 2007 11:12 am

I agree. People come from different backgrounds. If you come from a background where the f-bomb is really just another word for emphasis like "very," you might not realize how it sounds to someone who comes from a background where the word is only heard in moments of extreme anger. The ideal would be to avoid using the word in public around people you don't know. But if you do slip, and someone objects, don't preach to that person about freedom of speech. Apologize and move on.


Originally Posted by Big Mo (Post 8391766)
That's true. When you slip and the person you're speaking with objects, the proper response is to apologize.



LOL


APW Girl Sep 12, 2007 11:28 am


Originally Posted by MarcPHL (Post 8390638)
Ah, the good ole days, when everyone knew their place, blacks, sorry coloreds in the back of the bus, women, errr broads could be secretaries, nurses, FAs or teachers and had the pleasure of making--what was it--30 cents to a man's dollar? Oh it was grand when no Irish needed to apply, or before Italians and other Southern Europeans were considered "white".

I really was speaking only of air travel. I was talking of people being civilized to one another, planes were on time, FAs happy to see us and no 8 abreast seating. If you wanted to change your ticket,you wren't charged an arm and a leg. Planes have become today's buses.

APW Girl Sep 12, 2007 11:31 am


Originally Posted by Wally Bird (Post 8391126)
Nope. Has something to do with class, I believe. Or lack thereof.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I beieve that's what I've been trying to get across.

Superguy Sep 12, 2007 11:35 am


Originally Posted by Big Mo (Post 8391766)
That's true. When you slip and the person you're speaking with objects, the proper response is to apologize.

I agree.

Still the use of an LEO was beyond stupid on the FA's part.

JakiChan Sep 12, 2007 11:35 am


Originally Posted by Wally Bird (Post 8391126)
Nope. Has something to do with class, I believe. Or lack thereof.

To make clear: if you are suggesting that you've never used the "f-word" in public then I would submit that your memory may be faulty. I find it highly doubtful.

Superguy Sep 12, 2007 11:43 am


Originally Posted by JakiChan (Post 8391978)
To make clear: if you are suggesting that you've never used the "f-word" in public then I would submit that your memory may be faulty. I find it highly doubtful.

I once used it public ... more of a thinking out loud and expressing my frustration. It was one of those automated checkout kiosks and I was having a lot of problems with it as it wouldn't scan some items. I got really frustrated and said "I hate these f'in things." I got looks, I was embarassed, but the clerk came over and offered to help and fixed the issue. Didn't call the police, threaten to kick me out or anything like that. Maybe she felt because my mom was there and she smacked me upside the head that that was enough. :D Definitely wouldn't say something like that under normal circumstances in front of my mom, so it was definitely a slip.

Definitely wasn't proud of it.

It's not something I normally do (and I think I've only done it that once), but I think banning me from the store for that one incident would have been fool hardy. If I did it repeatedly ... sure.

Super

Madhouse24 Sep 12, 2007 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 8391977)
I agree.

Still the use of an LEO was beyond stupid on the FA's part.

Same here^

If the FA wanted to "teach" the OP a lesson, she could have spoken back in a slightly louder tone and said "I won't have you curse at me!" and certainly that could have been a possible solution to calm things down

Wally Bird Sep 12, 2007 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by JakiChan (Post 8391978)
To make clear: if you are suggesting that you've never used the "f-word" in public then I would submit that your memory may be faulty. I find it highly doubtful.

It depends on one's definition of in public. I certainly use the f-word (and worse :eek:) when I'm driving, but with the car windows closed I don't think that makes it public.

I very occasionally used it at work when s*** happened, but only around people I knew and who knew me.

That is my point. I would never consider using f- c- or similar in the presence of and absolutely not directed at strangers who have done nothing to me. As others have said, if you can't keep it together when sent to the penalty box at an airport, maybe you should stay home. It would be nice if all flights departed and arrived on time.

It would also be nice if I had a $billion. Both are equally likely.


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