Yes. It has the capability of making those who inhale it very sick.

DING DING DING - another winner!

Nine 3oz containers won't fit into the 1 quart bag.

This new ruling will work well for:

1) those who want backup supplies in case their checked bag goes missing
2) those who want to brush their teeth and put on hand cream during long flights
3) those on short trips who want to take only a carry on.

For those on longer trips, they'll either have to buy extra (especially toothpaste) at their destination or check a bag.

I've gone over my toiletry bag and, combined with new products I bought to get around the previous rules, I should be ok for a long trip except for toothpaste (the mini tubes from airline kits are too small for a trip longer than a couple of days.) My work-around for that would be to put toothpaste into a tupperware container and into the zip loc bag. I have some 2 oz (labeled) containers tupperware made for condiments in lunches.

I'm just waiting to hear if the rules have changed for Denmark and the UK, since I need to get home still and it would be nice to have my own things on board for the long flight.

IIRC: Chlorine (toxic gas), Nitrogen Trichloride (volatile, toxic), or Hydrazine (rocket fuel, explosive) depending on the conditions and ratio of ammonia to bleach.

But 3oz quantites aren't going to make very much, and as someone else said, splashing a coffee pot of water onto it should pretty much dilute the problem So it's not a very credible threat to aircraft or large numbers of passengers. And since they're not going to take perscription liquids or baby formula away (too much bad PR), a bad guy wanting to do this could just exploit those holes instead of bothering with 3 oz bottles.

Banning everyday household items is silly. Almost anything can be used as a weapon. Banning terrorists (i.e., good, legal, constitutional law enforcement at home and swift harsh military action abroad) is the answer, not taking away freedoms from Americans.

Yes, but if three or four or give people are in cahoots, it is clear that "enough" liquids could be brought aboard and combined aboard.

This is all nonsense.

Since when has the DHS/TSA done anything sensible? Until they are disbanded, their charter revoked and rewritten, or the airlines go totally (not the partial stuff you see now) bankrupt, nothing will change.


- Alan

You might want to read this article that describes what would be needed to accomplish what Chertoff and Hawley call a "credible threat"


Toliet Explosives

Are you allowed to carry safety razors in carry-on?

GG

So my partner went through security this morning EWR in the elite line as he is CO silver. His bag was checked twice and items were taken including a 5 oz clear container of hair gel with about 2 oz remaining as well as a 5 oz mouthwash bottle with about half remaining - oh yes the deadly 5 oz container of toothpaste was confiscated as well. At least the TSA will have fresh breath!! Meanwhile, they were all asking him why he didn't have time to buy 3 oz containers for all his toiletries!!!! In addition it only matter that the size of the container is 3 oz (or whatever) and not actually what remains in the container if it is larger. And the TSA agents both mentioned that you can "buy it on the other side." (By the way - the TSA agents were rolling their eyes and laughing about the whole stupid mess).

Now who is this really benefitting - the stores airside or the flyer?!?! I mean I have never seen or heard of anything as ridiculous in all my life - meanwhile the TSA agent told my partner that a ban on laptops was proposed but it was felt that the lobby from the computer companies would have gone ballistic!!! How is that for a bit of honesty from TSA!!! I just don't know what is going on with our government anymore - I truly think they are a bunch of idiots that really don't have any common sense.

I'm confused about your toothpaste quandry? Perhaps things are different back in the Old World, where you are now, but here in North America the trial size toothpaste (24g/.85 oz) should last 5 - 7 days per tube.

Thanks for the report. Looks like he would have been better off smuggling the items than presenting them for confiscation. I wonder if the TSAers get a commission for suggesting particular airside stores to replace stolen toiletries.

I have no doubt that a laptop ban has been proposed by someone at DHS/TSA. Laptops are in fact more dangerous than toothpaste, and they've already banned toothpaste. I would hope that the airlines and passengers would draw the line at bending over to such measures, but you never know.

Yes. Safety razors weren't even prohibited following September 11, 2001.

Are you kidding? To me, this latest charade was designed with Hudson News and Duty-Free Shops in mind. Those folks (and the airports losing their cut as well) barked the loudest. Chertoff and Hawley proved once again that money talks and BS walks.

Look at things a little closer. Those items that are sold in the "secure" area went through screening, right? What's the difference between those items versus what you bring on board? They all go through screening, right?

Right?

If they think limiting quantities is going to prevent something, they really need to get some medication for their cranial rectosis.

Think about it -- the bad guys on 9/11 worked in tandem, five guys to a plane (four on UA 93). If they collaborated all of their permissible liquids, they would have enough for a deadly concoction. That is a big stretch, but the TSA likes to think in stupid ways like that, hence pointing that out.

I don't think this little three-ounce charade is going to last forever. People go on business trips for longer than what three ounces of Scope or toothpaste will last. Also, there are plenty of business travelers who don't have time or the patience to get those silly ziploc bags. The amount of checked bags will change very little, maintaining the strain on the CTX machines and baggage handlers (except at SAT, of course, where everything is perfect).

I think this silly liquid game will be up for review again soon after the effects and stupidity are tangible.

I don't know how to do the cute strike-through thingie, but I'd replace the bolded text above with election day.

At the risk of a DY...T? (Do ya want to fly today?) I would be tempted to tell them "You overpaid rentacops must have more money than I do to waste on airside purchases. How about pull out your wallet and loan me a $20 so I can follow your suggestions? Better yet, why are you not handing out those nice $2000 FEMA credit cards like you did after Katrina? Put your money where your mouth is. Don't charge me $2.50 to insult me and tell me how to make travel more expensive for your convenience."